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Holy Shit! STEVE BALLMER SAID THIS: "We believe that any intersection between human and machine can be made better when every aspect of the experience, hardwar

Holy Shit! STEVE BALLMER SAID THIS: "We believe that any intersection between human and machine can be made better when every aspect of the experience, hardware and software, are considered together." I need to lay down... I wouldn't be half as surprised if Steve Jobs would announce in 2010 that they'll abandon making hardware and license iOS and OS X.

dm8 14y ago
Well, MSFT is giving "integrated experience" for XBox for years. So its not new to be honest.
- pooriaazimi 14y ago
  That was a new thing altogether, and they did that from the very beginning. Admitting that maybe the integrated approach could work better on the PC (they consider tablets a new form factor for PCs) is totally not in the same ballpark.
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    - pooriaazimi 14y ago
      Who said I never read anything Ballmer said?! On the contrary, I've read and listened to a lot of his interviews and follow MS news moderately well for someone who hates Windows but like (new) Windows Mobile and Win8 (because I think they have talent, but have stuck with poor management), so I guess I'm qualified to judge about Ballmer and I claim that almost none of his remarks on the direction of technology in the past 4-5 years were actually true.
huggyface 14y ago
Why would this be even remotely surprising? Microsoft is currently trying to cargo-cult what Apple is doing. That they ape the same philosophy isn't unexpected.
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- Splines 14y ago
  Are you really implying that Apple's end-to-end ownership of their product has little to do with their success?
  - huggyface 14y ago
    Are you really implying that Apple's end-to-end ownership of their product has little to do with their success? What a funny, looking-for-an-argument response. You know what, though- I'll humour you. Do you understand what a cargo-cult is? Are you really implying (groan) that end-to-end ownership is the precusor to success? With this transition, Microsoft is guaranteed super success, right? But let's go back to Apple for a moment: If you want to attribute their recent success to it, you must also attribute their prior failure to it as well, as they went through well over a decade with dismal products and brutal sales. During the same time that Microsoft, who didn't have end-to-end ownership, was the darling of the tech industry with unheralded success. I don't know why this sort of sophistry that is so common on here rubs me so raw. I think it's that so many are so desperate to try to simplify the world into clear differentiators, with a seeming blindness to the exceptions and the history behind their ridiculous claims.

dm8 14y ago

Well, MSFT is giving "integrated experience" for XBox for years. So its not new to be honest.

pooriaazimi 14y ago
That was a new thing altogether, and they did that from the very beginning. Admitting that maybe the integrated approach could work better on the PC (they consider tablets a new form factor for PCs) is totally not in the same ballpark.
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  - pooriaazimi 14y ago
    Who said I never read anything Ballmer said?! On the contrary, I've read and listened to a lot of his interviews and follow MS news moderately well for someone who hates Windows but like (new) Windows Mobile and Win8 (because I think they have talent, but have stuck with poor management), so I guess I'm qualified to judge about Ballmer and I claim that almost none of his remarks on the direction of technology in the past 4-5 years were actually true.

huggyface 14y ago

Why would this be even remotely surprising? Microsoft is currently trying to cargo-cult what Apple is doing. That they ape the same philosophy isn't unexpected.

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Splines 14y ago
Are you really implying that Apple's end-to-end ownership of their product has little to do with their success?
- huggyface 14y ago
  Are you really implying that Apple's end-to-end ownership of their product has little to do with their success? What a funny, looking-for-an-argument response. You know what, though- I'll humour you. Do you understand what a cargo-cult is? Are you really implying (groan) that end-to-end ownership is the precusor to success? With this transition, Microsoft is guaranteed super success, right? But let's go back to Apple for a moment: If you want to attribute their recent success to it, you must also attribute their prior failure to it as well, as they went through well over a decade with dismal products and brutal sales. During the same time that Microsoft, who didn't have end-to-end ownership, was the darling of the tech industry with unheralded success. I don't know why this sort of sophistry that is so common on here rubs me so raw. I think it's that so many are so desperate to try to simplify the world into clear differentiators, with a seeming blindness to the exceptions and the history behind their ridiculous claims.