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> I think the same argument could be made for Twitter/X. The app stores by Google and Apple specifically disallow pornographic material, yet the app is full of

> I think the same argument could be made for Twitter/X. The app stores by Google and Apple specifically disallow pornographic material, yet the app is full of it. Reddit is allowed too. imgur, snap, etc. I assumed you're fine as long as your raison d'être wasn't porn and the content was user generated / supplied.

judge2020 2y ago
To add, Tumblr was lambasted for them not properly policing their porn[0], accidentally allowing CSAM, and Apple being the one to inform them of this error. it's what led to them banning all 18+ content, arguably sealing the platform's fate of irrelevancy. 0: https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/20/18104366/tumblr-ios-app-child-pornography-removed-from-app-store https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/20/18104366/tumblr-ios-app-...
- abirch 2y ago
  I thought Yahoo's acquisition was what stopped their 18+ content But perhaps the most catastrophic misfire of all was the notorious ‘porn ban’ that came into place on December 17, 2018 – a policy partly driven by a US law [1] that made websites liable for sex trafficking that might take place on their platform. The ban covers ‘female presenting nipples’, genitals, and any depicted sex acts. Until then, the platform had remained a refuge for a devoted community of users, but this decision affected swift and dire consequences. https://www.wired.com/story/tumblr-sold-to-wordpress/ https://www.wired.com/story/tumblr-sold-to-wordpress/ [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSTA-SESTA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSTA-SESTA
johnnyanmac 2y ago
And who determines that reason? Twitter seems to work fine with no restrictions but Discord basically has to lock down any server marked as 18+ (regardless of the content of 18+. Don't know how mobile has had 15 years to do granular content warnings based on decades of other medium but app stores still assume 18+ = porn).
- Quarrel 2y ago
  > And who determines that reason? the exact language of their T&Cs? Not to be too flippant, but we can guess all we want, but the individual apps signed up to specific terms at the time, and you can almost guarantee that Apple (or anyone else) reserves a lot of leeway to themselves as to how they enforce or otherwise police those T&Cs. All the conjecture in this bit of the thread seems a bit pointless given none of us are reading it, let alone reading the specific bit that whichever app in question might be held to. Hence my start to it, as well, these seem to be allowed ...

judge2020 2y ago

To add, Tumblr was lambasted for them not properly policing their porn[0], accidentally allowing CSAM, and Apple being the one to inform them of this error. it's what led to them banning all 18+ content, arguably sealing the platform's fate of irrelevancy. 0: https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/20/18104366/tumblr-ios-app-child-pornography-removed-from-app-store https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/20/18104366/tumblr-ios-app-...

abirch 2y ago
I thought Yahoo's acquisition was what stopped their 18+ content But perhaps the most catastrophic misfire of all was the notorious ‘porn ban’ that came into place on December 17, 2018 – a policy partly driven by a US law [1] that made websites liable for sex trafficking that might take place on their platform. The ban covers ‘female presenting nipples’, genitals, and any depicted sex acts. Until then, the platform had remained a refuge for a devoted community of users, but this decision affected swift and dire consequences. https://www.wired.com/story/tumblr-sold-to-wordpress/ https://www.wired.com/story/tumblr-sold-to-wordpress/ [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSTA-SESTA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSTA-SESTA

johnnyanmac 2y ago

And who determines that reason? Twitter seems to work fine with no restrictions but Discord basically has to lock down any server marked as 18+ (regardless of the content of 18+. Don't know how mobile has had 15 years to do granular content warnings based on decades of other medium but app stores still assume 18+ = porn).

Quarrel 2y ago
> And who determines that reason? the exact language of their T&Cs? Not to be too flippant, but we can guess all we want, but the individual apps signed up to specific terms at the time, and you can almost guarantee that Apple (or anyone else) reserves a lot of leeway to themselves as to how they enforce or otherwise police those T&Cs. All the conjecture in this bit of the thread seems a bit pointless given none of us are reading it, let alone reading the specific bit that whichever app in question might be held to. Hence my start to it, as well, these seem to be allowed ...