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>The real problem here is that we're expecting Google to do this instead of law enforcement. Is there a scammer? Arrest them. They can't make 1000 more accounts

>The real problem here is that we're expecting Google to do this instead of law enforcement. Is there a scammer? Arrest them. They can't make 1000 more accounts from prison and then Google don't have to play whack a mole while clobbering tons of innocent people. How can a scammer make 1000 accounts? Don't they need to give Google Store some gov ID, credit card number? If this are too easy for scammers to get then ask for more documents that a legit company or developer would have. And you can make this more strict stuff optional, if you do not provide this documents your activity and reports are treated 100x more seriously. My suspicion is that companies are using AI crap to handle user reports, some devs very exited to work on this cool new tech where they can replace even more people in support and QA with scripts.

lucianbr 2y ago
As a user, I've had to jump through a lot of hoops like captcha, credit card number, phone number check, dns domain check etc. I've been told these are to prevent scammers making 1000 accounts. Now they tell me "well we can't prevent scammers, because they make 1000 accounts". I am beginning to think someone is not 100% truthful to me.
- 0xdada 2y ago
  There is a cost to breaking captcha.
- simion314 2y ago
  Yeah, some companies are happy to let the bots thrive, I use reddit a lot and I would prefer to have 2 tiers of account,s, validated as real humans and not validated, then I would prefer if developers could do their job and put limits on non validated accounts with bot like activity. Bu they are happy with bots, I see people getting banned and getting back with a new account with same name just a small change there. We had the case with Elon Musk complaining about bots and after the took over I read that he is fine with bots now,especially the ones that pay for the blue check mark. I also wish police would do more in the cases of impersonation, where scammers impersonate people or institution, if this people are from a different country and that country does not collaborate then sanction them.
UncleMeat 2y ago
> How can a scammer make 1000 accounts? Don't they need to give Google Store some gov ID, credit card number? Stolen credit cards and other stuff. People also complain that creating an account of arduous (especially in developing markets) if you have to do too much to create an account. > My suspicion is that companies are using AI crap to handle user reports, some devs very exited to work on this cool new tech where they can replace even more people in support and QA with scripts. The complaint is from early 2023. I suspect that whatever anti-abuse systems exist on Google Play hadn't deeply integrated LLMs at this point, as this is just like a few months after the initial launch of ChatGPT.
- simion314 2y ago
  >The complaint is from early 2023. I suspect that whatever anti-abuse systems exist on Google Play hadn't deeply integrated LLMs at this point, as this is just like a few months after the initial launch of ChatGPT. Google had an AI before ChatGPT, remember that there was some Google developer that made a lot of noise that Google created artificial live and enslaved it or something like that ? And I said AI not LLM

lucianbr 2y ago

As a user, I've had to jump through a lot of hoops like captcha, credit card number, phone number check, dns domain check etc. I've been told these are to prevent scammers making 1000 accounts. Now they tell me "well we can't prevent scammers, because they make 1000 accounts". I am beginning to think someone is not 100% truthful to me.

0xdada 2y ago
There is a cost to breaking captcha.
simion314 2y ago
Yeah, some companies are happy to let the bots thrive, I use reddit a lot and I would prefer to have 2 tiers of account,s, validated as real humans and not validated, then I would prefer if developers could do their job and put limits on non validated accounts with bot like activity. Bu they are happy with bots, I see people getting banned and getting back with a new account with same name just a small change there. We had the case with Elon Musk complaining about bots and after the took over I read that he is fine with bots now,especially the ones that pay for the blue check mark. I also wish police would do more in the cases of impersonation, where scammers impersonate people or institution, if this people are from a different country and that country does not collaborate then sanction them.

UncleMeat 2y ago

> How can a scammer make 1000 accounts? Don't they need to give Google Store some gov ID, credit card number? Stolen credit cards and other stuff. People also complain that creating an account of arduous (especially in developing markets) if you have to do too much to create an account. > My suspicion is that companies are using AI crap to handle user reports, some devs very exited to work on this cool new tech where they can replace even more people in support and QA with scripts. The complaint is from early 2023. I suspect that whatever anti-abuse systems exist on Google Play hadn't deeply integrated LLMs at this point, as this is just like a few months after the initial launch of ChatGPT.

simion314 2y ago
>The complaint is from early 2023. I suspect that whatever anti-abuse systems exist on Google Play hadn't deeply integrated LLMs at this point, as this is just like a few months after the initial launch of ChatGPT. Google had an AI before ChatGPT, remember that there was some Google developer that made a lot of noise that Google created artificial live and enslaved it or something like that ? And I said AI not LLM