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reminds me of the path Minecraft could have taken - they also had a massive amount of community developers building servers, but instead of encouraging monetiza

reminds me of the path Minecraft could have taken - they also had a massive amount of community developers building servers, but instead of encouraging monetization and taking a cut, they banned it and cracked down aggressively Of course, unlike Roblox, Minecraft was profitable

RockRobotRock 2y ago
I appreciate how they left Java edition alone and chose Bedrock edition to dump all the MTX bullshit on.
- HaZeust 2y ago
  For now.
  - RockRobotRock 2y ago
    i've been thinking that for 10 years. they forced msft accounts, which is annoying. other than that, hasn't been too bad
    - HaZeust 2y ago
      So they're empirically making progress towards it.
  - skeaker 2y ago
    That ship has sailed. People can and will just play on old versions if it comes to this. They already do for older versions that have better mod support.
- zamadatix 2y ago
  MTX?
  - RockRobotRock 2y ago
    microtransactions
Gigachad 2y ago
What is the Minecraft online experience like these days? I only ever hear about people playing self hosted servers with friends. Are there still big servers with unique game modes kicking? Seems like it would be hard to keep sustainable
- theshrike79 2y ago
  There are "Realms" that are essentially MS/Mojang hosted massive servers.
- skerit 2y ago
  I've been running my own (not-for-profit, for people over the age of 21) server for the past 5 years. We're basically just a Vanilla+ server, we have no problems finding new people to join (thanks to /r/MinecraftBuddies)
  - xrd 2y ago
    My kids love Minecraft. They often run a curseforge mod (create?) and then open a port so they can play together inside the home LAN. But, I don't really understand how this works, and I would love to host it in a way that their cousins in another state could join. Do you know how I research this? I get a bit confused between the curseforge mods, the java edition. Should I start by downloading a JAR of the server and host it on a cloud server somewhere, and then firewall it off to only permit my NAT IP and the cousin's NAT IPs? At some point maybe I can run it all within a wireguard/tailscale network. How do I get started in my reading? I'm worried I'll get overwhelmed by reading /r/MinecraftBuddies, but perhaps that is a better place to ask?
    - password4321 2y ago
      This may be enough to get the ball rolling: https://blogs.oracle.com/developers/post/how-to-set-up-and-run-a-really-powerful-free-minecraft-server-in-the-cloud https://blogs.oracle.com/developers/post/how-to-set-up-and-r...
    - HaZeust 2y ago
shkkmo 2y ago
Minecraft took the moral approach of allowing independent servers and mods (in the Java edition.) Roblox took the scummy approach of monetizing child labor and taking a cut. I am so glad, despite the other bad things Microsoft has done with Minecraft, that they haven't taken the Roblox path.
- amitlevy49 2y ago
  I had a Minecraft server when I was 12, and now as an adult I feel it was a very valuable experience for be personally And it was more fun to run the server than play the game

RockRobotRock 2y ago

I appreciate how they left Java edition alone and chose Bedrock edition to dump all the MTX bullshit on.

HaZeust 2y ago
For now.
- RockRobotRock 2y ago
  i've been thinking that for 10 years. they forced msft accounts, which is annoying. other than that, hasn't been too bad
  - HaZeust 2y ago
    So they're empirically making progress towards it.
- skeaker 2y ago
  That ship has sailed. People can and will just play on old versions if it comes to this. They already do for older versions that have better mod support.
zamadatix 2y ago
MTX?
- RockRobotRock 2y ago
  microtransactions

Gigachad 2y ago

What is the Minecraft online experience like these days? I only ever hear about people playing self hosted servers with friends. Are there still big servers with unique game modes kicking? Seems like it would be hard to keep sustainable

theshrike79 2y ago
There are "Realms" that are essentially MS/Mojang hosted massive servers.
skerit 2y ago
I've been running my own (not-for-profit, for people over the age of 21) server for the past 5 years. We're basically just a Vanilla+ server, we have no problems finding new people to join (thanks to /r/MinecraftBuddies)
- xrd 2y ago
  My kids love Minecraft. They often run a curseforge mod (create?) and then open a port so they can play together inside the home LAN. But, I don't really understand how this works, and I would love to host it in a way that their cousins in another state could join. Do you know how I research this? I get a bit confused between the curseforge mods, the java edition. Should I start by downloading a JAR of the server and host it on a cloud server somewhere, and then firewall it off to only permit my NAT IP and the cousin's NAT IPs? At some point maybe I can run it all within a wireguard/tailscale network. How do I get started in my reading? I'm worried I'll get overwhelmed by reading /r/MinecraftBuddies, but perhaps that is a better place to ask?
  - password4321 2y ago
    This may be enough to get the ball rolling: https://blogs.oracle.com/developers/post/how-to-set-up-and-run-a-really-powerful-free-minecraft-server-in-the-cloud https://blogs.oracle.com/developers/post/how-to-set-up-and-r...
  - HaZeust 2y ago

shkkmo 2y ago

Minecraft took the moral approach of allowing independent servers and mods (in the Java edition.) Roblox took the scummy approach of monetizing child labor and taking a cut. I am so glad, despite the other bad things Microsoft has done with Minecraft, that they haven't taken the Roblox path.

amitlevy49 2y ago
I had a Minecraft server when I was 12, and now as an adult I feel it was a very valuable experience for be personally And it was more fun to run the server than play the game