> if you can't define proper limits then you don't know what you want or how to get it What if what you want is simply for the onus to be on the cops to defend

> if you can't define proper limits then you don't know what you want or how to get it What if what you want is simply for the onus to be on the cops to defend why they need to do something, instead of it just being assumed they can do whatever they want?