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The market is saturated. Four years ago we could buy a new one for $1300 or buy used on Craigslist for $800. We went with Craigslist, and resold six months late

The market is saturated. Four years ago we could buy a new one for $1300 or buy used on Craigslist for $800. We went with Craigslist, and resold six months later for $900 (not a typo). The bassinet is well-made so it would be silly to throw it out after 2-3 kids. The fact that the resellers are other parents makes me trust a little more that they aren’t selling a broken/dirty bassinet, so why buy new for double the cost? They are a victim of their own success.

dyauspitr 2y ago
It depends. One of my rules is to never buy a secondhand mattress and I definitely wouldn’t buy one for my baby. I’m not sure off the mattress comes with this bassinet or not.
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- _yb2s 2y ago
  This article mentions that the Snoo was designed to prevent SIDS, but the number one factor predicting SIDS is a used mattress... and interventional studies have proven it is not caused by other confounding factors like poor familes or second children being more likely to have used mattresses- It can be prevented with a new mattress or non-permeable mattress cover. The Snoo has an integrated mattress in a non-standard size, but you can buy new replacements from the manufacturer.
  - lolinder 2y ago
    > the number one factor predicting SIDS is a used mattress As a three-time parent who did extensive reading on SIDS prevention before the first one and brushed up before each of of the other two: What? Do you have a citation for this? Because my recollection is that all of these show up on the list of things to avoid for SIDS but a used mattress never featured once in my reading: * Smoking * Fuzzy stuff in the bed (stuffed animals, blankets) * Sleeping on stomach * Heat
    - _yb2s 2y ago
      As an anxious parent and an academic scientist, I did a deep dive into the peer reviewed literature on causes of SIDS when I first became a parent, which admittedly was a few years back. I came across what is called the "Toxic Gas" theory of SIDS, which is admittedly not part of the major recommendations for avoiding SIDS in the USA- but I read all of the literature on it, and I found the evidence quite convincing, and the dismissals to be lacking. There were however dismissals in many popular review articles and mainstream recommendations, but they never presented an articulate rebuttal of what seemed like a reasonable concept, and convincing evidence. The idea is that fungi in an older dirty mattress metabolize flame retardant compounds and produce toxic gases, which were measured in high concentrations with a mass spec on the surfaces of mattresses where infants had actually died from SIDS[1]. Other studies found correlations with mattress age after controlling for other variables, and decreases in SIDS rates with interventions based on non-permeable mattress wraps [2, 3]. Thinking about it fits neatly with some of the other risk factors you mentioned, as they reduce airflow, or put the infants face closer to the mattress surface. I think it needs a lot more systematic studying, but it seemed convincing enough for me to buy a new mattress without phosphorus, arsenic or antimony containing flame retardants. I'm not 100% sure about this theory, but I would not let any infant in my care sleep on an old mattress, or a mattress with potentially toxic flame retardants. Surely there isn't one single "cause of SIDS" as it is just death, and any person can suddenly die at any age for any number of different reasons. [1] Sudden Infant Death Syndrome: a possible primary cause https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0015736894729157?via%3Dihub https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001573689... [2] Used infant mattresses and sudden infant death syndrome in Scotland: case-control study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC131017/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC131017/ [3] Cot Death—Cause and PreventionExperiences in New Zealand 1995–2004 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13590840400016836 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1359084040001683...
      - SkyPuncher 2y ago
        This is extremely interesting as I’ve read that having bumpers is also a significant increase in the risk of SIDS. I wonder if it’s a situation where bad air basically gets trapped by the baby. Not much different than, a CO2 canister leaking into a closed room.

dyauspitr 2y ago

It depends. One of my rules is to never buy a secondhand mattress and I definitely wouldn’t buy one for my baby. I’m not sure off the mattress comes with this bassinet or not.

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_yb2s 2y ago
This article mentions that the Snoo was designed to prevent SIDS, but the number one factor predicting SIDS is a used mattress... and interventional studies have proven it is not caused by other confounding factors like poor familes or second children being more likely to have used mattresses- It can be prevented with a new mattress or non-permeable mattress cover. The Snoo has an integrated mattress in a non-standard size, but you can buy new replacements from the manufacturer.
- lolinder 2y ago
  > the number one factor predicting SIDS is a used mattress As a three-time parent who did extensive reading on SIDS prevention before the first one and brushed up before each of of the other two: What? Do you have a citation for this? Because my recollection is that all of these show up on the list of things to avoid for SIDS but a used mattress never featured once in my reading: * Smoking * Fuzzy stuff in the bed (stuffed animals, blankets) * Sleeping on stomach * Heat
  - _yb2s 2y ago
    As an anxious parent and an academic scientist, I did a deep dive into the peer reviewed literature on causes of SIDS when I first became a parent, which admittedly was a few years back. I came across what is called the "Toxic Gas" theory of SIDS, which is admittedly not part of the major recommendations for avoiding SIDS in the USA- but I read all of the literature on it, and I found the evidence quite convincing, and the dismissals to be lacking. There were however dismissals in many popular review articles and mainstream recommendations, but they never presented an articulate rebuttal of what seemed like a reasonable concept, and convincing evidence. The idea is that fungi in an older dirty mattress metabolize flame retardant compounds and produce toxic gases, which were measured in high concentrations with a mass spec on the surfaces of mattresses where infants had actually died from SIDS[1]. Other studies found correlations with mattress age after controlling for other variables, and decreases in SIDS rates with interventions based on non-permeable mattress wraps [2, 3]. Thinking about it fits neatly with some of the other risk factors you mentioned, as they reduce airflow, or put the infants face closer to the mattress surface. I think it needs a lot more systematic studying, but it seemed convincing enough for me to buy a new mattress without phosphorus, arsenic or antimony containing flame retardants. I'm not 100% sure about this theory, but I would not let any infant in my care sleep on an old mattress, or a mattress with potentially toxic flame retardants. Surely there isn't one single "cause of SIDS" as it is just death, and any person can suddenly die at any age for any number of different reasons. [1] Sudden Infant Death Syndrome: a possible primary cause https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0015736894729157?via%3Dihub https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001573689... [2] Used infant mattresses and sudden infant death syndrome in Scotland: case-control study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC131017/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC131017/ [3] Cot Death—Cause and PreventionExperiences in New Zealand 1995–2004 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13590840400016836 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1359084040001683...
    - SkyPuncher 2y ago
      This is extremely interesting as I’ve read that having bumpers is also a significant increase in the risk of SIDS. I wonder if it’s a situation where bad air basically gets trapped by the baby. Not much different than, a CO2 canister leaking into a closed room.