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What exactly did you dislike about CodeIgniter? For me CodeIgniter is probably what I'd use if I had to go back to making PHP applications so I'd like to hear a
by swang 14y ago
What exactly did you dislike about CodeIgniter? For me CodeIgniter is probably what I'd use if I had to go back to making PHP applications so I'd like to hear any reasons you had against it.
- renownedmedia 14y agoCI was built in the PHP4 days, and for that reason it has a lot of cruft left over. For example, there is no autoloader. Also, classes are loaded as singletons, and are assigned to properties of the controller, which I put into the 'magic' category, and isn't compatible with IDE autocomplete features (I'm a VIM user, but it makes things easier for a lot of developers). //CI Class Load Example: $this->load->library('example'); $this->example->something(); //Raw PHP Class Load Example: $this->example = new Example(); $this->example->something(); As you can see, the latter is a little more obvious about what is going on.
- citricsquid 14y agoI'm not comp sci educated, I'm all self taught so maybe "Autoload" has a real meaning outside of this context, but CI does have an autoloader... something that can autoload libraries and models? application/config/autoload.php
- rokhayakebe 14y agoVery good question. I am self taught as well, and have been using CI for about 2 years now. I can autoload libs and helpers. I would love to read his answer there. Also another question would be which frameworks is he currently using and what are its advantages.
- renownedmedia 14y agoI answered his questions directly; I'm not doing too much PHP development these days, it is mostly Node stuff.
- renownedmedia 14y agoPHP has the ability to run a function when attempting to load a class which doesn't yet exist, which can load a file from the filesystem and get the class into memory. The CI version of autoloading is a manually entered list of classes to be loaded (a little ironic actually :p).
- troels 14y agohttp://php.net/manual/en/language.oop5.autoload.php http://php.net/manual/en/language.oop5.autoload.php
- iends 14y agoWhat PHP framework would you use if you had to today? Kohana? Yii? Something else?
- renownedmedia 14y agoI started using Kohana after moving on from CI, but these days, I don't do as much PHP development. It's mostly Node.js development now. I did start rebuilding this in Kohana a few months ago with the intention of rebuilding it as a less panel-y looking interface, but ended up scrapping the project.
- chrismsnz 14y agoI'm not the OP but almost any PHP project these days has me reaching for Symfony 2[0] or her little brother Silex[1] paired with Doctrine 2[2]. [0]. http://symfony.com/ http://symfony.com/ [1]. http://silex.sensiolabs.org/ http://silex.sensiolabs.org/ [2]. http://www.doctrine-project.org/ http://www.doctrine-project.org/
- renownedmedia 14y agoSymfony is nice, Zend 2 is going to fix everything from ZF1 and is worth keeping an eye on as well. I've dabbled in Doctrine before, but the memory usage looked a little too high for the convenience it offered.
- lftl 14y agoOut of curiosity what are you doing in PHP where memory usage is an issue? PHP's standard life cycle, while having numerous disadvantages, avoids a lot of problems with memory usage. It's a rather different beat, but you might checkout Propel (http://propelorm.org http://propelorm.org) for a different take on a PHP ORM. It has a static build phase unlike Doctrine which turns some people off, but if you can get past that it's a rather nice ORM.
- renownedmedia 14y ago