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Then they could have giant piles of nuclear waste, that they have no idea how to dispose of, just like france...
by johnea 2y ago
Then they could have giant piles of nuclear waste, that they have no idea how to dispose of, just like france...
- kman82 2y ago[flagged]
- rebolek 2y agoThose "giant piles" are abysmal compared to the damage done by coal plants which they keep running.
- H8crilA 2y agoCoal even releases nuclear isotopes into the air.
- tourmalinetaco 2y agoOr the long term ecological damage of solar panels. https://www.ecowatch.com/solar-environmental-impacts.html https://www.ecowatch.com/solar-environmental-impacts.html
- Solarisgood 2y ago"create solar panels is still nowhere near that of traditional energy facilities, and it is quite small when compared to oil drilling, fracking or coal mining" Did you post it to indicate that solar is bad or that it is also not 100% perfect?
- tourmalinetaco 2y agoThat solar is not perfect and not as effective as nuclear, which actually easily produces energy surpluses whenever needed and can provide the energy that is required to mine it. As opposed to solar, which still relies on fossil fuels due to the minimal adoption of nuclear, while also introducing its own environmental impacts.
- audunw 2y agoYou should take a look at how they dumped the earlier waste. It’s not something I’ve seen mentioned in these discussions: https://amp.dw.com/en/germanys-leaking-nuclear-waste-dump/video-69502364 https://amp.dw.com/en/germanys-leaking-nuclear-waste-dump/vi... After learning about Asse I totally understand why the Germans are so negative to nuclear energy. It’s not just Chernobyl that scarred them.
- Gud 2y agoGood thing no one is doing that anymore?
- fsflover 2y ago"If all the electricity use of the USA was distributed evenly among its population, and all of it came from nuclear power, then the amount of nuclear waste each person would generate per year would be 34 grams" https://whatisnuclear.com/waste.html#howmuch https://whatisnuclear.com/waste.html#howmuch
- dotcoma 2y agoIs that a lot or very little? In any case, nuclear is a technology of the XX Century. The future is wind and solar.
- fsflover 2y ago> Is that a lot or very little? Read on my link. It's very little.
- Solarisgood 2y agoWould you be able to store a few kg (after decades) somewhere in your flat/house? I would say yes easily. "Hey we're is your nuclear waste?" "It's under my bed"
- lawn 2y agoThe future needs to first invent cheaper, more available, and more efficient energy storage before we can replace the old power plants. That fusion is the technology of the future does not mean we should dismantle what functions today.
- Dunedan 2y agoGermany also has giant piles of nuclear waste and doesn't even know yet where to store it permanently. Recently an assessment concluded that the process to select such a storage facility might take at least until 2074! [1] [1]: https://www.base.bund.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/BASE/DE/fachinfo/fa/pasta_abschlussbericht.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=3 https://www.base.bund.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/BASE/DE/fachin...
- stkdump 2y agoThere is exactly one country on earth that has found a permanent storage for its nuclear waste. For all we know Germany might still be amoung the first countries to find one.
- RGamma 2y agoAt this point we better find a way to slingshot it into space (SpinLaunch?)
- dgellow 2y agoPeople wouldnt like it because it sounds stupid, but sending radioactive waste deep at the bottom of oceans would work pretty well
- qwerty456127 2y agoIsn't it possible to engineer plants which use this waste for fuel?
- krasin 2y agoYes, breeder reactors can feed on waste: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeder_reactor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeder_reactor China has the plan to achieve closed nuclear fuel cycle, and there are new breeder reactors being put online to move the country closer to that goal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFR-600 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFR-600
- qwerty456127 2y agoWhy is anybody troubled by the waste then? Why won't they just build some reactors of this kind?
- krasin 2y ago> Why is anybody troubled by the waste then? Greenpeace had a point back in 1970-ies, but the message got into a myth and subsequent advancements in technology have not been popularized enough to change the public perception.
- dgellow 2y agoGenerally a lots of misunderstandings regarding radioactive waste, but also breeder reactors are still fairly experimental.
- qwerty456127 2y agoI've read about breeder reactors in a German kids book in the nineties. How long do they have to be "experimental"? No surprise the nuclear industry is so weak when the progress is kept so slow (I used the word "kept" because the thing we are discussing can hardly be considered a bleeding edge advance).
- jauntywundrkind 2y agoIt does seem like renewables are taking over. But I do wish nuclear had had more fuel cycle ambitions. America's Integral Fast Reactor (IFR) used on-site pyro processing, and was able to process & burn a colossal amount of the waste (where-as breeders typically pull out & refine only plutonium, also a proliferation risk). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integral_fast_reactor#Onsite_reprocessing_using_pyroprocessing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integral_fast_reactor#Onsite_r... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_reprocessing#Pyroprocessing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_reprocessing#Pyroproce... We had so many interesting options for how to do nuclear in a responsible long term way. But so much of the world has seemingly been uninterested in funding the r&d.
- slow_typist 2y agoNo need to downvote. At least France is developing a disposal site in Bure. But they will need a second site for the highly active waste of the 50+ NNPs. EDIT: changed 80+ to 50+