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I'm not sure how you can link these test results to lack of memorization when so many other factors are likely at play from the worsening parental support many
by shostack 2y ago
I'm not sure how you can link these test results to lack of memorization when so many other factors are likely at play from the worsening parental support many children face with school due to economic decline, to the pittance teachers are paid, to the war on education some states seem to be playing (curiously they are all heavy red states).
- cyberax 2y agoThe scores are falling in the Blue states a-flush with cash. E.g. Washington: https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile/overview/WA?sfj=NP&chort=1&sub=MAT&sj=WA&st=MN&year=2022R3&cti=PgTab_OT https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile/over... The Red states are actually staying fairly steady. I don't think that the lack of memorization is the main reason, but it definitely is one of the reasons. Mobile phones and tablets in education are also not helping, and their spread is well-correlated with the start of the decline.
- quataran 2y ago[dead]
- godelski 2y agoI'm not exactly sure what you're arguing here. It more seems like you're pointing to California in 4th grade. Which I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable using California as the prime example given how diverse it is in culture and demographics. Too much noise introduced through aggregation. When looking at the other grades and varying by subjects it very much looks like the data is noisy. I'm sure there's meaningful analysis to be drawn from here but I'm certain there's no obvious one.
- cyberax 2y agoYou can look at other states and at the 8th grade. It's the same pattern almost everywhere: achievements peaked in 2014 and have been declining. CA, WA, NY were hit pretty severely. I like to look at 4th grade because most of the learning by that grade _is_ memorization.