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Has it? I see this: Instance has been rate limited. Use another instance or try again later.

toomuchtodo 2y ago
Potentially related: https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/issues/983#issuecomment-1683134811 https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/issues/983#issuecomment-168... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38970676 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38970676
- bloopernova 2y ago
  Linked GitHub comment is from August 2023.
  - toomuchtodo 2y ago
    Enablement mechanism; as fallingsquirrel mentions, there are adversarial countermeasures that continue to take place as X updates access requirements on a whim. I assume the "cat and mouse" game to continue as long as X operates. Shoutout to those putting the effort in, and anyone archiving along the way. Edit: I'm unsure how many tech folks are left at X, but publicly available information indicates that the org is in financial peril and its owner is unable to pay the liabilities coming due out of their personal finances [1] without liquidating public equity components of their wealth. It should be assumed that X could shut down at any time, without notice, and any data that has not be archived will be lost to time. I am not attempting to talk about anything here except "this data is at risk, this system should not be treated as if there is any permanence." [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41270878 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41270878
    - self_awareness 2y ago
      The amount of opinions predicting imminent destruction of X in the year forces me to treat every comment of type "any time now" with a grain of salt. Also, it's not like other X-like clones (Mastodon) are any different. Mastodon loses replies even if every server is running correctly.
      - toomuchtodo 2y ago
        I’m not predicting when, I am simply advocating to be prepared if it disappears. Mastodon activity can be archived in the Internet Archive, X not always.
- Waterluvian 2y ago
  I applaud people who do whatever is possible to work around an issue. But it just gives me tremendous anxiety to imagine trying to run a product using hacks like “proxy thousands of guest accounts” This feels like those hilarious and fascinating projects to glue together free tier services or use YouTube or email for data storage or whatnot.
  - mananaysiempre 2y ago
    I mean, we used to call this "adversarial interoperability" (and now half of the time it’s evil scraping or some such, with Cloudflare selling countermeasures...).
lolinder 2y ago
I tried using nitter the other day to view my utility company's tweets and got that message on three different instances before finally giving up. Twitter doesn't work any more without an account, and it's high time we in the tech world led out in refusing to participate in a platform that deliberately locks its content up behind an auth wall. Twitter links don't belong on HN, convoluted sometimes-functional workarounds notwithstanding.
- dumbo-octopus 2y ago
  You can view an accounts tweets without logging in.
  - lolinder 2y ago
    That's new as of the last 48 hours, and threads still don't work. When they restore threading I'll stop flagging Twitter links.
    - dumbo-octopus 2y ago
      No, it’s not. I’ve been viewing tweets on profiles for months now, all without an account. It is accurate that threads don’t work. I don’t particularly care about follow ups, if it was important they should have said it at the top level. People making a bunch of lede burying 1/N threads and expecting the masses to wade through Twitter’s molasses UI to get to the damn point is why I left.
      - lolinder 2y ago
        > I’ve been viewing tweets on profiles for months now, all without an account. And I tried to visit my utility's tweets Friday night and got a sign in page. And I just tried again and I once again can't see profiles. Maybe it's just inconsistent in enforcing the login on profiles?
        dumbo-octopus 2y ago

Potentially related: https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/issues/983#issuecomment-1683134811 https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/issues/983#issuecomment-168... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38970676 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38970676

bloopernova 2y ago
Linked GitHub comment is from August 2023.
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  Enablement mechanism; as fallingsquirrel mentions, there are adversarial countermeasures that continue to take place as X updates access requirements on a whim. I assume the "cat and mouse" game to continue as long as X operates. Shoutout to those putting the effort in, and anyone archiving along the way. Edit: I'm unsure how many tech folks are left at X, but publicly available information indicates that the org is in financial peril and its owner is unable to pay the liabilities coming due out of their personal finances [1] without liquidating public equity components of their wealth. It should be assumed that X could shut down at any time, without notice, and any data that has not be archived will be lost to time. I am not attempting to talk about anything here except "this data is at risk, this system should not be treated as if there is any permanence." [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41270878 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41270878
  - self_awareness 2y ago
    The amount of opinions predicting imminent destruction of X in the year forces me to treat every comment of type "any time now" with a grain of salt. Also, it's not like other X-like clones (Mastodon) are any different. Mastodon loses replies even if every server is running correctly.
    - toomuchtodo 2y ago
      I’m not predicting when, I am simply advocating to be prepared if it disappears. Mastodon activity can be archived in the Internet Archive, X not always.
Waterluvian 2y ago
I applaud people who do whatever is possible to work around an issue. But it just gives me tremendous anxiety to imagine trying to run a product using hacks like “proxy thousands of guest accounts” This feels like those hilarious and fascinating projects to glue together free tier services or use YouTube or email for data storage or whatnot.
- mananaysiempre 2y ago
  I mean, we used to call this "adversarial interoperability" (and now half of the time it’s evil scraping or some such, with Cloudflare selling countermeasures...).

lolinder 2y ago

I tried using nitter the other day to view my utility company's tweets and got that message on three different instances before finally giving up. Twitter doesn't work any more without an account, and it's high time we in the tech world led out in refusing to participate in a platform that deliberately locks its content up behind an auth wall. Twitter links don't belong on HN, convoluted sometimes-functional workarounds notwithstanding.

dumbo-octopus 2y ago
You can view an accounts tweets without logging in.
- lolinder 2y ago
  That's new as of the last 48 hours, and threads still don't work. When they restore threading I'll stop flagging Twitter links.
  - dumbo-octopus 2y ago
    No, it’s not. I’ve been viewing tweets on profiles for months now, all without an account. It is accurate that threads don’t work. I don’t particularly care about follow ups, if it was important they should have said it at the top level. People making a bunch of lede burying 1/N threads and expecting the masses to wade through Twitter’s molasses UI to get to the damn point is why I left.
    - lolinder 2y ago
      > I’ve been viewing tweets on profiles for months now, all without an account. And I tried to visit my utility's tweets Friday night and got a sign in page. And I just tried again and I once again can't see profiles. Maybe it's just inconsistent in enforcing the login on profiles?
      - dumbo-octopus 2y ago