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> gathering feedback from our first users. If you’re interested, you can try it here: https://ravenapp.ai https://ravenapp.ai doesn't seem like I can try it. T

by erklik 2y ago

> gathering feedback from our first users. If you’re interested, you can try it here: https://ravenapp.ai https://ravenapp.ai doesn't seem like I can try it. There's a screen that pops up saying I need to make an account.

tiagovasc 2y ago
The account creation process is free and takes just a few seconds. If you use Google to log in, you can access Raven immediately. For email sign-ups, you’ll receive a login link right away and it's just an extra click. Nevertheless, I understand your point. We agree that having the option to try the app without creating an account would be ideal, and it's in our roadmap.
- pentaphobe 2y ago
  There's your feedback then: People generally don't blindly sign up for apps which expose exactly nothing about themselves or their privacy policies
  - tiagovasc 2y ago
    True that. Thank you!
- chrisldgk 2y ago
  You don’t need to go that far, but I currently have no information at all about what your app looks like and if it’s useful to me at all. I would imagine you‘ll get a lot more sign ups with a better landing page that demos the app a little.
  - tiagovasc 2y ago
    Fair enough, I thought the description here would be useful for that. I'll keep this in mind. Thank you!
- erklik 2y ago
  > The account creation process is free and takes just a few seconds. If you use Google to log in, you can access Raven immediately. For email sign-ups, you’ll receive a login link right away and it's just an extra click. The average user leave web pages in 10-20 seconds unless you provide a clear value proposition to hold their attention. I can make a account, and I can give you my email ... But why should I? What exactly even is Raven? The webpage tells me nothing, yet you think I am going to give over my email information (and name etc that's pulled from Google OAuth) ... for what again? > We agree that having the option to try the app without creating an account would be ideal, and it's in our roadmap. Not even that. Make a landing page. Stick a few screenshots on it, make a loom video. Anything that shows me what I am even signing up to. More so, you're targeting developers, on HN. That's a more privacy focused crowd. No Privacy Policy. No contact information. No proof that my data won't be sold to some random company is not a great way to gain trust.
  - tiagovasc 2y ago
    Makes sense. Thanks for the feedback! We do have a landing page, although I thought people would roughly see if the app is interesting to them by the post itself. https://www.ravenotes.com/ https://www.ravenotes.com/

by erklik 2y ago

tiagovasc 2y ago

The account creation process is free and takes just a few seconds. If you use Google to log in, you can access Raven immediately. For email sign-ups, you’ll receive a login link right away and it's just an extra click. Nevertheless, I understand your point. We agree that having the option to try the app without creating an account would be ideal, and it's in our roadmap.

pentaphobe 2y ago
There's your feedback then: People generally don't blindly sign up for apps which expose exactly nothing about themselves or their privacy policies
- tiagovasc 2y ago
  True that. Thank you!
chrisldgk 2y ago
You don’t need to go that far, but I currently have no information at all about what your app looks like and if it’s useful to me at all. I would imagine you‘ll get a lot more sign ups with a better landing page that demos the app a little.
- tiagovasc 2y ago
  Fair enough, I thought the description here would be useful for that. I'll keep this in mind. Thank you!
erklik 2y ago
> The account creation process is free and takes just a few seconds. If you use Google to log in, you can access Raven immediately. For email sign-ups, you’ll receive a login link right away and it's just an extra click. The average user leave web pages in 10-20 seconds unless you provide a clear value proposition to hold their attention. I can make a account, and I can give you my email ... But why should I? What exactly even is Raven? The webpage tells me nothing, yet you think I am going to give over my email information (and name etc that's pulled from Google OAuth) ... for what again? > We agree that having the option to try the app without creating an account would be ideal, and it's in our roadmap. Not even that. Make a landing page. Stick a few screenshots on it, make a loom video. Anything that shows me what I am even signing up to. More so, you're targeting developers, on HN. That's a more privacy focused crowd. No Privacy Policy. No contact information. No proof that my data won't be sold to some random company is not a great way to gain trust.
- tiagovasc 2y ago
  Makes sense. Thanks for the feedback! We do have a landing page, although I thought people would roughly see if the app is interesting to them by the post itself. https://www.ravenotes.com/ https://www.ravenotes.com/