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It is one of the most surprising maps I have ever seen: there seem to be peoples who state only very rarely experiencing anger or sadness... (The measures are:

by mdp2021 2y ago

It is one of the most surprising maps I have ever seen: there seem to be peoples who state only very rarely experiencing anger or sadness... (The measures are: anger, sadness, stress, worry, physical pain; enjoyment, rest, learning, laughter, being respected.) Can this public confirm through experience what the study states about Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Mexico, Estonia...?

082349872349872 2y ago
I don't have experience in any of those countries, but I have watched a lot of B-flicks in the US, and there's a trope where the hero is sad in the 2nd act because the villain just killed their best friend (usually directly after the enjoyment scene — middle of the W), and they still don't prevail in the 3rd act, until (at the bottom right of the W) they get angry and win, for the happily ever after (top right of the W) Hollywood Ending. I could easily believe cultures with a different movie tradition might well have less positive (heroic?) views on anger and sadness.
- spacebacon 2y ago
  It’s deeper than that. You will need to investigate the heroes journey a bit alongside film semiotics to refine this intuitive view. People often emerge from apathy with sadness. Sadness to anger. Hollywood dramatizes the heroes journey as have most epics prior.
  - spacebacon 2y ago
    The opposite of Epic is understated. Understanding life is complex (as are films). Viewing both through a semiotic lens helps us not to reduce things to less than their entirety. Films are much less complex than life but watching many of them may help tune complex pattern recognition.
tlb 2y ago
The question is "Did you experience the following feelings during a lot of the day Yesterday? How about anger?" So it represents a pretty bad day. In my life, I think this would be true for less than 1% of days.
- mdp2021 2y ago
  T., you are clearly pretty much accomplished... What about the median in your area (not your environment)? What about different personalities in challenging environments? For other people a day of remarkable anger is "every day" (with some days more merciful than others). That a society has better stats than Afghanistan is understandable; better than, say, Switzerland, is quite interesting.
  - gradschoolfail 2y ago
    With experience in some of these countries*, I would say you want to investigate the healthy interplay between local shamanic traditions with imported technological culture ;) (Assuming tlb is “wealthy” enough not to need to know people who schedule shaman appointments as a backup-plan in the 1% situations) *shamans incorporate error correction into their practice here! [also see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41309270 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41309270]

082349872349872 2y ago

I don't have experience in any of those countries, but I have watched a lot of B-flicks in the US, and there's a trope where the hero is sad in the 2nd act because the villain just killed their best friend (usually directly after the enjoyment scene — middle of the W), and they still don't prevail in the 3rd act, until (at the bottom right of the W) they get angry and win, for the happily ever after (top right of the W) Hollywood Ending. I could easily believe cultures with a different movie tradition might well have less positive (heroic?) views on anger and sadness.

spacebacon 2y ago
It’s deeper than that. You will need to investigate the heroes journey a bit alongside film semiotics to refine this intuitive view. People often emerge from apathy with sadness. Sadness to anger. Hollywood dramatizes the heroes journey as have most epics prior.
- spacebacon 2y ago
  The opposite of Epic is understated. Understanding life is complex (as are films). Viewing both through a semiotic lens helps us not to reduce things to less than their entirety. Films are much less complex than life but watching many of them may help tune complex pattern recognition.

tlb 2y ago

The question is "Did you experience the following feelings during a lot of the day Yesterday? How about anger?" So it represents a pretty bad day. In my life, I think this would be true for less than 1% of days.

mdp2021 2y ago
T., you are clearly pretty much accomplished... What about the median in your area (not your environment)? What about different personalities in challenging environments? For other people a day of remarkable anger is "every day" (with some days more merciful than others). That a society has better stats than Afghanistan is understandable; better than, say, Switzerland, is quite interesting.
- gradschoolfail 2y ago
  With experience in some of these countries*, I would say you want to investigate the healthy interplay between local shamanic traditions with imported technological culture ;) (Assuming tlb is “wealthy” enough not to need to know people who schedule shaman appointments as a backup-plan in the 1% situations) *shamans incorporate error correction into their practice here! [also see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41309270 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41309270]