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I was hoping that mpv would work a bit better than vlc for sending video to chromecast, but unfortunately, another similarly amusing thread: https://github.com/

I was hoping that mpv would work a bit better than vlc for sending video to chromecast, but unfortunately, another similarly amusing thread: https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/177 https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/177

latexr 2y ago
Far from me to defend the whole mpv team[1], but the dev in that thread is a ghost (deleted user). I remember them, they were always rude and eventually got kicked out of the project and loudly complained about “being removed from the project [they] created”. I never found the exact reason why, though I can’t help but think the attitude had something to do with it. [1] Some are quite nice and competent. Others are exceedingly rude and will e.g. jump on an issue that had thus far been entirely cordial just to, without provocation, insult users for using whatever OS they don’t like.
- throwaway11747 2y ago
  The last issue that caused them to leave was their desire to move mpv to their own build system, which they believed they could write in a weekend. Other mpv developers thought that was a stupid idea and argued in favor of something more standard, such as meson. That was the last straw for both sides.
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  - latexr 2y ago
    > their own build system, which they believed they could write in a weekend. That doesn’t seem right: > (…) I started this over a year ago (…) https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/pull/7801#issuecomment-641850335 https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/pull/7801#issuecomment-641... > Other mpv developers thought that was a stupid idea and argued in favor of something more standard That doesn’t seem right either. I just read the whole PR thread and I see a bunch of users arguing for it, not other maintainers. The maintainer was certainly controversial and I found several commits and bad decisions which look to be almost universally hated, but it’s not clear to me this specific problem was what caused them to quit or that it was motivated by other maintainers. If you could provide a source for your claim, it would be appreciated.
sureIy 2y ago
Ghost is my soulmate. As a OSS maintainer, I feel that. Not a week goes by without some random dude coming to my repos expecting I implement whatever they ask, or else be called a dick. Particularly: you don’t have to use mpv if it doesn’t do what you want it to do, and don’t bust my ** because of it.
- latexr 2y ago
  > Ghost is my soulmate. As a OSS maintainer, I feel that. You also close issues without even trying to understand what they’re about? https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/177#issuecomment-29065606 https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/177#issuecomment-29... https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/177#issuecomment-62586181 https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/177#issuecomment-62... > some random dude coming to my repos expecting I implement whatever they ask, or else be called a dick. If that’s what you took from that discussion, I sincerely recommend you take a break. You may be experiencing burnout. It’s of course your choice to not implement something you don’t want in your project, but let’s not pretend everyone making a request, especially people who have shown research are dicks out to get you. I tell you this as fellow open-source maintainer. I’ve learned over the years that if people opening issues are a frequent source of frustration, the first step is to investigate how I can make that less of an issue (e.g. using a GitHub template that forces a specific kind of action) and secondly realise that I need some distance and to relax. When you feel like everyone is an asshole, it’s probably just you. By the way, that maintainer in particularly was known for lashing out at the smallest things and being rude unprovoked. Perhaps consider reading more of the history before calling them your soulmate.
  - sureIy 2y ago
    No man, you don’t understand. I take every step possible to avoid people opening issues, they just either disregard the 4 steps between the problem and the GitHub issue, or just come out swinging saying I should just implement it “because many people want it” or I should suggest an alternative. My issue template specifically says “do not request this feature” and they still delete it and request it. I have no patience for people who are assholes and you shouldn’t either. They’re blocked on sight and that’s how I deal with them. You say “unprovoked”, I see people completely disregarding my wellbeing by telling me how to spend my free time and how to design my product. > Perhaps consider reading more of the history before calling them your soulmate. I don’t need to judge a person by his whole life, I’m just talking about that specific issue as it matches my experience as described above.
throwaway11747 2y ago
It's a former developer that's no longer affiliated with the project since 2021 or thereabouts. They did not part on good terms because he behaved in the same way towards other mpv developers, "my way or the highway". So you probably shouldn't let anything that old sour your opinion on the current mpv. (I don't belong to either side, just have been using the player since its inception.)
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account42 2y ago
This isn't remotely similar. Nowhere is the MPV developer ( wm4) being unreasonable in that thread. And while wm4 was not exactly known for interpersonal skills, he was rarely wrong unlike Remi in this case in claiming things to be impossbile when they are not.

latexr 2y ago

Far from me to defend the whole mpv team[1], but the dev in that thread is a ghost (deleted user). I remember them, they were always rude and eventually got kicked out of the project and loudly complained about “being removed from the project [they] created”. I never found the exact reason why, though I can’t help but think the attitude had something to do with it. [1] Some are quite nice and competent. Others are exceedingly rude and will e.g. jump on an issue that had thus far been entirely cordial just to, without provocation, insult users for using whatever OS they don’t like.

throwaway11747 2y ago
The last issue that caused them to leave was their desire to move mpv to their own build system, which they believed they could write in a weekend. Other mpv developers thought that was a stupid idea and argued in favor of something more standard, such as meson. That was the last straw for both sides.
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- latexr 2y ago
  > their own build system, which they believed they could write in a weekend. That doesn’t seem right: > (…) I started this over a year ago (…) https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/pull/7801#issuecomment-641850335 https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/pull/7801#issuecomment-641... > Other mpv developers thought that was a stupid idea and argued in favor of something more standard That doesn’t seem right either. I just read the whole PR thread and I see a bunch of users arguing for it, not other maintainers. The maintainer was certainly controversial and I found several commits and bad decisions which look to be almost universally hated, but it’s not clear to me this specific problem was what caused them to quit or that it was motivated by other maintainers. If you could provide a source for your claim, it would be appreciated.

sureIy 2y ago

Ghost is my soulmate. As a OSS maintainer, I feel that. Not a week goes by without some random dude coming to my repos expecting I implement whatever they ask, or else be called a dick. Particularly: you don’t have to use mpv if it doesn’t do what you want it to do, and don’t bust my ** because of it.

latexr 2y ago
> Ghost is my soulmate. As a OSS maintainer, I feel that. You also close issues without even trying to understand what they’re about? https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/177#issuecomment-29065606 https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/177#issuecomment-29... https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/177#issuecomment-62586181 https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/177#issuecomment-62... > some random dude coming to my repos expecting I implement whatever they ask, or else be called a dick. If that’s what you took from that discussion, I sincerely recommend you take a break. You may be experiencing burnout. It’s of course your choice to not implement something you don’t want in your project, but let’s not pretend everyone making a request, especially people who have shown research are dicks out to get you. I tell you this as fellow open-source maintainer. I’ve learned over the years that if people opening issues are a frequent source of frustration, the first step is to investigate how I can make that less of an issue (e.g. using a GitHub template that forces a specific kind of action) and secondly realise that I need some distance and to relax. When you feel like everyone is an asshole, it’s probably just you. By the way, that maintainer in particularly was known for lashing out at the smallest things and being rude unprovoked. Perhaps consider reading more of the history before calling them your soulmate.
- sureIy 2y ago
  No man, you don’t understand. I take every step possible to avoid people opening issues, they just either disregard the 4 steps between the problem and the GitHub issue, or just come out swinging saying I should just implement it “because many people want it” or I should suggest an alternative. My issue template specifically says “do not request this feature” and they still delete it and request it. I have no patience for people who are assholes and you shouldn’t either. They’re blocked on sight and that’s how I deal with them. You say “unprovoked”, I see people completely disregarding my wellbeing by telling me how to spend my free time and how to design my product. > Perhaps consider reading more of the history before calling them your soulmate. I don’t need to judge a person by his whole life, I’m just talking about that specific issue as it matches my experience as described above.

throwaway11747 2y ago

It's a former developer that's no longer affiliated with the project since 2021 or thereabouts. They did not part on good terms because he behaved in the same way towards other mpv developers, "my way or the highway". So you probably shouldn't let anything that old sour your opinion on the current mpv. (I don't belong to either side, just have been using the player since its inception.)

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account42 2y ago

This isn't remotely similar. Nowhere is the MPV developer ( wm4) being unreasonable in that thread. And while wm4 was not exactly known for interpersonal skills, he was rarely wrong unlike Remi in this case in claiming things to be impossbile when they are not.