Well, this debate is getting a little stale over a few days. The disconnect is in the phrase "at this level". You can always find a salary point at which any

Well, this debate is getting a little stale over a few days. The disconnect is in the phrase "at this level". You can always find a salary point at which any good or service will appear to be in "shortage". And you can always find a salary at which there will appear to be a glut. Sounds like there's a big shortage of 80k/yr engineers, but absolutely no shortage of 160k/yr engineers.