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Are we again in a Microsoft 2000 phase? It seems like everything Microsoft is broken these days. GitHub barely works after the acquisition. Azure is a joke. T

Are we again in a Microsoft 2000 phase? It seems like everything Microsoft is broken these days. GitHub barely works after the acquisition. Azure is a joke. Teams is the bane of my existance. Outlook is the second one. Do they need to ask harder leetcoding problems during the interviews?

FridgeSeal 2y ago
Are they actually capable of releasing anything good? I guess C# isn’t horrible? It’s far from a language I want to use, but it’s not teams level of atrocious, so they’ve got that going for them I guess. VSCode is pretty good, but not good enough to stop me migrating off the second a more viable editor arrived. Word and office have degraded into a “doesn’t aggressively fail” sort of scenario, so they’re not “good” they’re just incumbent.
- elmo2you 2y ago
  > VSCode is pretty good, but not good enough to stop me migrating off the second a more viable editor arrived. If you're interested, there is VSCodium (VCCode without the Microsoft/proprietary parts). There's also Theia, if you want to take things a step further away from Microsoft. > I guess C# isn’t horrible? It’s far from a language I want to use, but it’s not teams level of atrocious, so they’ve got that going for them I guess. No clue if this is true for other companies, but I know a company that does big outsourcing project and most of them in C#/.NET and Angular. I've seen plenty of that code. My impression was/is that most of the C# code was extremely basic and mostly just tying together all ready-made libraries/features/frameworks/services (which Microsoft provides on their platforms/products) that actually made up the apps/services. C# itself just isn't all that much. Apart from maybe a gateway to guaranteed vendor lock-in. Maybe that is why they made sure to not mess that one up ;)
resource_waste 2y ago
Microsoft is a legacy company and soon to be zombie company. I think you'd be out of your mind to start a new company and use Microsoft for anything except Excel. The only reason my company seems to use it, we have software from the 2000s that only runs on Windows. Maybe there is some backdoor bribery going on, because someone decided sharepoint was a good idea.

FridgeSeal 2y ago

Are they actually capable of releasing anything good? I guess C# isn’t horrible? It’s far from a language I want to use, but it’s not teams level of atrocious, so they’ve got that going for them I guess. VSCode is pretty good, but not good enough to stop me migrating off the second a more viable editor arrived. Word and office have degraded into a “doesn’t aggressively fail” sort of scenario, so they’re not “good” they’re just incumbent.

elmo2you 2y ago
> VSCode is pretty good, but not good enough to stop me migrating off the second a more viable editor arrived. If you're interested, there is VSCodium (VCCode without the Microsoft/proprietary parts). There's also Theia, if you want to take things a step further away from Microsoft. > I guess C# isn’t horrible? It’s far from a language I want to use, but it’s not teams level of atrocious, so they’ve got that going for them I guess. No clue if this is true for other companies, but I know a company that does big outsourcing project and most of them in C#/.NET and Angular. I've seen plenty of that code. My impression was/is that most of the C# code was extremely basic and mostly just tying together all ready-made libraries/features/frameworks/services (which Microsoft provides on their platforms/products) that actually made up the apps/services. C# itself just isn't all that much. Apart from maybe a gateway to guaranteed vendor lock-in. Maybe that is why they made sure to not mess that one up ;)

resource_waste 2y ago

Microsoft is a legacy company and soon to be zombie company. I think you'd be out of your mind to start a new company and use Microsoft for anything except Excel. The only reason my company seems to use it, we have software from the 2000s that only runs on Windows. Maybe there is some backdoor bribery going on, because someone decided sharepoint was a good idea.