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VLC is pretty bad and it shows the more you use it. It doesn't let the audio clip/exceed safe volumes and always applies some sort of a limiter, even if it's d

VLC is pretty bad and it shows the more you use it. It doesn't let the audio clip/exceed safe volumes and always applies some sort of a limiter, even if it's disabled everywhere in the settings. Try using an EQ on a bass-heavy track and see that it's limited. Try jumping back multiple times in a song at its beginning, and it will play in lower pitch.

darby_nine 2y ago
> VLC is pretty bad and it shows the more you use it. Compared to what? Such a statement is meaningless without comparison.
- opan 2y ago
  Compared to mpv. Some would also say compared to mpc-hc.
  - hollerith 2y ago
    The first sentence on https://mpc-hc.org/ https://mpc-hc.org/ is, "MPC-HC is not under development since 2017. Please switch to something else."
    - infofarmer 2y ago
      search engines and wikipedia point to actively maintained versions
    - defrost 2y ago
      Instead of MPC-HC v1.7.13 (2017) maybe try MPC-HC v2.3.4 (2024) https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc In many ways it's a display wrapper about codec components, the display part is in active maintainance and bug fix mode (last update two weeks ago) and the codecs are constantly being improved (and expanded as new ones emerge). https://www.codecguide.com/ https://www.codecguide.com/ There are two or three MPC-HC spin offs that are tweaking the core to do new things.
      - rocketvole 2y ago
        it's annoying that the clsid fork isn't associated with the website- it adds a lot of confusion to what is probably the video player that compromises between user friendliness and customizability. It's usually the video player that I recommend to people because it seems beter than vlc and has a GUI for settings as opposed to mpv.
        account42 2y ago
        This is one of the many reasons why forks should use a distinctive name to differentiate themselves. Just realeasing new versions with the same name as the upstream project is generally a dick move.
        SirMaster 2y ago
        I am pretty sure the dev (clsid2) worked on mpc-hc originally as well before.
  - vharish 2y ago
    I don't think the target audience are the same. Not so sure about this. Just my impression.
  - darby_nine 2y ago
    > mpv can you please explain what you mean with this acronym? EDIT: this seems to correspond to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPlayer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPlayer
    - opan 2y ago
      mpv is the name of the actual program, I'm not aware of it standing for anything. MPlayer is an older project.
user3939382 2y ago
That strikes me as such a strange statement, I’ve always considered it to be among the most impressive OSS projects out there. It tackles enormous complexity, works everywhere, and has a trove of a million hidden features. For example, I use it to headless play streams from CLI.
- opan 2y ago
  If you enter video-related enthusiast scenes, such as fansubbed anime releases, mpv is recommended over anything else across the board. There are releases that break in VLC, and mpv is usually first to support new features. It also has particularly good defaults in terms of good and accurate playback, so where you might see some people say "install mpc-hc and these scripts and change these settings", with mpv it's just "use mpv". mpv is extremely configurable on top of great defaults also. Setting default audio and sub languages in order of your preference (such as enm before eng and en if you prefer honorifics tracks) is a common tweak. I thought VLC was awesome while growing up, and at the time it probably was compared to Windows Media Player and such. I remember a common bit of praise was that it supported more types of video files. I haven't really run into anything mpv won't play (I even use it when an image I saved ends up as .html for some reason and then use the info screen to determine the real extension it should be so I can rename it), but also I'm guessing we've standardized more on codecs and containers these days which doesn't hurt.
  - latexr 2y ago
    > I even use it when an image I saved ends up as .html for some reason and then use the info screen to determine the real extension it should be so I can rename it If you’re on Linux on macOS, you’ll have access to the `file` command-line tool which can do it effectively. In a couple of lines of shell scripting you can even have it auto-change the extension. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_(command) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_(command)
    - opan 2y ago
      I had someone try to tell me this or some similar alternative method once, but for this particular use-case my method seemed faster. Usually I'm viewing the dir with the file in ranger, hit r (shortcut for :open_with ), type mpv, enter, I in mpv for info, q to quit, a in ranger to rename the file with old name pretyped in. It's a pretty smooth workflow. Assuming I start from the same place in ranger I have to press colon and type `shell -w file %s` and hit enter which may or may not be faster but I think is more keystrokes. I could bind it to a key in ranger if I found an open one and then that might be better. It's sometimes weeks between instances of the mis-saved images or else I might've tried harder to optimize this. The shell script idea is neat.
FabHK 2y ago
I guess I don't want my video player to let audio exceed safe volumes...

darby_nine 2y ago

> VLC is pretty bad and it shows the more you use it. Compared to what? Such a statement is meaningless without comparison.

opan 2y ago
Compared to mpv. Some would also say compared to mpc-hc.
- hollerith 2y ago
  The first sentence on https://mpc-hc.org/ https://mpc-hc.org/ is, "MPC-HC is not under development since 2017. Please switch to something else."
  - infofarmer 2y ago
    search engines and wikipedia point to actively maintained versions
  - defrost 2y ago
    Instead of MPC-HC v1.7.13 (2017) maybe try MPC-HC v2.3.4 (2024) https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc In many ways it's a display wrapper about codec components, the display part is in active maintainance and bug fix mode (last update two weeks ago) and the codecs are constantly being improved (and expanded as new ones emerge). https://www.codecguide.com/ https://www.codecguide.com/ There are two or three MPC-HC spin offs that are tweaking the core to do new things.
    - rocketvole 2y ago
      it's annoying that the clsid fork isn't associated with the website- it adds a lot of confusion to what is probably the video player that compromises between user friendliness and customizability. It's usually the video player that I recommend to people because it seems beter than vlc and has a GUI for settings as opposed to mpv.
      - account42 2y ago
        This is one of the many reasons why forks should use a distinctive name to differentiate themselves. Just realeasing new versions with the same name as the upstream project is generally a dick move.
        SirMaster 2y ago
        I am pretty sure the dev (clsid2) worked on mpc-hc originally as well before.
- vharish 2y ago
  I don't think the target audience are the same. Not so sure about this. Just my impression.
- darby_nine 2y ago
  > mpv can you please explain what you mean with this acronym? EDIT: this seems to correspond to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPlayer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPlayer
  - opan 2y ago
    mpv is the name of the actual program, I'm not aware of it standing for anything. MPlayer is an older project.

user3939382 2y ago

That strikes me as such a strange statement, I’ve always considered it to be among the most impressive OSS projects out there. It tackles enormous complexity, works everywhere, and has a trove of a million hidden features. For example, I use it to headless play streams from CLI.

opan 2y ago
If you enter video-related enthusiast scenes, such as fansubbed anime releases, mpv is recommended over anything else across the board. There are releases that break in VLC, and mpv is usually first to support new features. It also has particularly good defaults in terms of good and accurate playback, so where you might see some people say "install mpc-hc and these scripts and change these settings", with mpv it's just "use mpv". mpv is extremely configurable on top of great defaults also. Setting default audio and sub languages in order of your preference (such as enm before eng and en if you prefer honorifics tracks) is a common tweak. I thought VLC was awesome while growing up, and at the time it probably was compared to Windows Media Player and such. I remember a common bit of praise was that it supported more types of video files. I haven't really run into anything mpv won't play (I even use it when an image I saved ends up as .html for some reason and then use the info screen to determine the real extension it should be so I can rename it), but also I'm guessing we've standardized more on codecs and containers these days which doesn't hurt.
- latexr 2y ago
  > I even use it when an image I saved ends up as .html for some reason and then use the info screen to determine the real extension it should be so I can rename it If you’re on Linux on macOS, you’ll have access to the `file` command-line tool which can do it effectively. In a couple of lines of shell scripting you can even have it auto-change the extension. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_(command) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_(command)
  - opan 2y ago
    I had someone try to tell me this or some similar alternative method once, but for this particular use-case my method seemed faster. Usually I'm viewing the dir with the file in ranger, hit r (shortcut for :open_with ), type mpv, enter, I in mpv for info, q to quit, a in ranger to rename the file with old name pretyped in. It's a pretty smooth workflow. Assuming I start from the same place in ranger I have to press colon and type `shell -w file %s` and hit enter which may or may not be faster but I think is more keystrokes. I could bind it to a key in ranger if I found an open one and then that might be better. It's sometimes weeks between instances of the mis-saved images or else I might've tried harder to optimize this. The shell script idea is neat.

FabHK 2y ago

I guess I don't want my video player to let audio exceed safe volumes...