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AI Seinfeld was the peak of AI-generated content. It will never happen again
- moritzwarhier 2y agoPrevious thread (3 up, no comment): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41277593 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41277593 // nevermind, I screwed up I meant https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41237670 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41237670 but also didn't want to complain about anything
- minimaxir 2y agoHacker News allows resubmissions (within moderation) if there is no discussion/attention.
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- upon_drumhead 2y agoThat's this thread id?
- moritzwarhier 2y agooops!
- rvz 2y ago> Would a 24/7 AI-Generated Twitch Stream Even Work Anymore? Yes. There is right now a 24/7 live discussion happening right now around posts on Twitter / X with a panel of.....AI characters giving their expert opinion on a Twitch live stream. [0] [0] https://www.twitch.tv/timelesstakes/ https://www.twitch.tv/timelesstakes/
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- Retr0id 2y agoWell, it exists, but it's not exactly compelling content. AI Seinfeld wasn't either, but at least it was a relative novelty.
- neom 2y agoI worked on this intimately, the level this blog post misses the mark is amusing. It's not my place to go into it, so I'm afraid you'll have to take it on good faith, that this blog post really isn't even what happened, never mind not even really how the tech worked etc. Skylar and Brian who build it are brilliant, and this blog post is super shallow, at least in it's facts about how it worked and why it ended. I don't know it invalidates the post, only that, well, it's not really factually accurate, the guessing is almost flat wrong in parts.
- asabla 2y agoJust want to say thank you for your contribution. A lot of the wonky stuff made it really funny to watch, but at the same time impressive (for what it was). Do you have any links to share about details surrounding the project? Would be fun to understand more about the process but as well the work in general. edit: fixed some weird autocorrects
- neom 2y agoA lot of it is not mine to share, I was basically a CXO hire brought in by Skyler Hartle and Brian Habersberger who created it* to work with them on assessing the viability of the product they'd built behind the scenes, as a business, and it's levels of scale etc. Skyler and Brian are amazing genius level dudes (and also HN users!). I know the whole story end to end, pretty much exactly as it unfolded, it's not really anything like this blog post thinks it is, to the point I don't think I even agree with the author. Again: I'm sorry but much of it is not mine to share, for a great many reasons. *As a side project, over years, and years, before it took off, "over night", there is a lot of tech unmentioned they built totally unrelated to LLMs etc, much of it still worth, not mentioning, because it's "cutting edge" still even today)
- asabla 2y agoAlright, thank you for sharing. Then I'll just hope either Skyler or Brian wants to share their story some day here on HN
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- brap 2y agoBy far the funniest thing about AI Seinfeld was not the thing itself, but the Twitch chat going wild
- jmcgough 2y agoThere was something really amusing with how oddly broken and nonsequitur the show was. It was the Seinfeld you loved but the jokes were bizarre, dadaist, and would end awkwardly in the middle of a scene after an uncomfortable pause. It was addictive in how unpredictable it could be (well, when jokes weren't repeating). And you're right - the energy was fantastic. I loved twitch chat spamming memes like NEW <x>!!! Or going insane every time Kekler showed up. Or spamming MMMM when the extremely loud microwave turned on.
- lylejantzi3rd 2y agoTo me, the funniest thing about AI Seinfeld is that 30 rock called this back in 2007. Seinfeldvision! https://youtu.be/FVeigNzjXO4?t=42 https://youtu.be/FVeigNzjXO4?t=42
- GaggiX 2y agoNeurosama is a very popular vtuber and runs on Twitch without any particular controversy about the fact that she's an AI, I believe an artist even made her model for free. I think she even became the most popular "female" streamer on the Twitch platform for a while.
- minimaxir 2y agoI admit I wasn't aware of that channel when writing this post. That said, VTubing is a medium predicated with several layers of irony (I also admit I don't fully understand non-AI VTubers) and the implicit assumption among viewers that it's inherently fantasy, so the uncanny valley logic and mainstream appeal that this post frames is not as applicable.
- GaggiX 2y ago>so the uncanny valley logic and mainstream appeal that this post frames is not as applicable. To be the most popular female streamer on Twitch and the most popular vtuber on any streaming platform for an entire week means you're already pretty mainstream, if not, there's really nothing mainstream on Twitch.
- xyst 2y agoOn an unrelated note, is anybody else getting AI-fatigue? It’s even becoming difficult to avoid in real life
- minimaxir 2y agoPart of my motivation for writing a 28 minute-long thought piece was due to AI fatigue despite working in the industry.
- neom 2y agoAnd you created a wonderful cautionary tail in working backwards when you're smart but wrong. I'd imagine that post took a little while to write, and given how little you know about what you where talking about, is why I said... not to be mean, just... it really does become amusing.
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- shakna 2y agoWe're starting to get studies showing that the majority of consumers are turned off by including the magic acronym. [0] If the average person is getting fatigued... Then everyone close to the industry tends to be far worse off, as well. [0] https://doi.org/10.1080/19368623.2024.2368040 https://doi.org/10.1080/19368623.2024.2368040
- stale2002 2y agoI like max's written and his overview, but I do think the negativity at the end is overblow. Yes, people will complain. Yes making a new AI show would be controversial. But nothing worth doing isn't controversial. All the stuff about "you can't use voice clones, or feature X or whatever" don't apply, IMO. Just do it anyway, and when you have haters, congradulations, those hates will spread your work further than any fan could.
- GaggiX 2y agoI talked about Neurosama in another comment but there is also DougDoug, a really popular streamer and content creator that very often use AI chatbots to make content. Always without any particular controversy about the AI chatbot. Many of the most popular streamer also use AI voices of famous people to read donations.