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Sure, you could move out to rural nowhere, where housing costs next to nothing. Find some part time job, and live your life. I'm from a place like that, and a
by TrackerFF 2y ago
Sure, you could move out to rural nowhere, where housing costs next to nothing. Find some part time job, and live your life.
I'm from a place like that, and a bunch of my old classmates from HS have lived like that their entire adult lives working part time. They work 2-3-4 days a week.
Of course, you'll be sacrificing lots of materialistic things, but that's a given.
- medion 2y ago100% - but people don’t want to make those sacrifices. They want to live and do what they’ve always done. It has and likely always will be possible to pick up stumps and move somewhere very cheap and get on with a personal creative endeavour - not many have the courage though.
- financltravsty 2y agoYour creativity is a composition of all the novel stimuli you experience. Going out into the sticks, while calming and healing for the soul, is artistic suicide.
- l33tbro 2y agoCormac McCarthy? Georgia O'Keeffe? Robert Johnson? Plenty of artists excel beyond the urban fringe.
- financltravsty 2y agoI'm sorry, but I don't hold them in high regard as artists. They're part of the "western/southern frontier" crowd that encapsulated the zeitgeists of their environments, rather than create something that transcended it. The "frontier" is a notable and interesting subject in itself, but it has only peripheral cultural value to... civilization.
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- blt 2y agoI was going to write a more serious rebuke, but I can't really do any better than yours
- financltravsty 2y agoGo for it.
- cossatot 2y agoMuch of O’Keeffe’s work relates to gender in a way that was counter to the zeitgeist of the contemporaneous southwest. Johnson more or less embodied a nascent Delta blues, defining it on wax, then died. It was too early in the codification for there be something to transcend. His career was like 9 months long. McCarthy I don’t know, can’t read because I don’t like the violence. Nonetheless your final point is far more vapid because the frontier is where civilization is created and destroyed. It is where norms, values and modes of production of some civilization are placed with decreasing amounts of their domestic support, and usually in increasing conflict with a different civilization, so that it becomes clear what aspects have some more fundamental truth or at least robustness, and what is simply town and gown, responding to the ever shifting attentions of easily bored patrons.
- financltravsty 2y agoNow this is a good interpretation -- let me have breakfast and I will send a reply.
- financltravsty 2y agoApologies for the late reply! I'm sorry, I won't be able to respond.
- lalalandland 2y agoOrchestral music composition and performance is quite different from painting and writing. When you are dependent on a large amounts of other highly skilled people to create and perform it makes it really hard to live out in nowhere. These days internet and digital production can ease a lot of the rural isolation. But for many (most?) people it is essential to be in and around the art scene to be able to create and maintain focus and motivation to work on their art. Especially when starting a career it is important to meet and see other artists and art.
- _acco 2y agoYou can’t participate in performance arts remotely. Not to say anything about networking, which is critical for most arts.
- joe5150 2y agoIf Philip Glass had had to live in "rural nowhere" in order to afford to make music, we would have never heard of Philip Glass. vatys isn't asking if you can make any living this way, because of course you can. The specific conditions that allowed Philip Glass to work part time jobs and still live in the same city as people like Steve Reich and institutions like The Kitchen don't exist anymore.
- JKCalhoun 2y ago> If Philip Glass had had to live in "rural nowhere" in order to afford to make music, we would have never heard of Philip Glass. I'm not so sure. A lot of art comes out of "affordable areas" — sometimes small college-town ghettos like Athens, Georgia, for example. Why couldn't we get a Philip Glass from Manhattan, Kansas?
- joe5150 2y agoWhy not indeed? If there is an orchestra's worth of musicians available and an audience there with the taste and curiosity necessary to support avant garde performing arts, anything can happen. It's easier now than ever to put a band together in your college town or even record and release music without ever leaving your bedroom, but beyond that scale you still need a critical mass of creative collaborators all in one place to pull it off.
- creer 2y agoThere are orchestras everywhere. Because musicians want to play and directors want to direct and any random school has a performance hall. Whether they are all that good is another question, but that's true of big cities in the US also. And audience is still another question: I expect you don't get to have all that much of an audience until you have somewhat made it. No doubt Philip Glass didn't start with much of an audience. Most artists that try to invent something new start with essentially no audience. They don't create that for the big bucks.
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- CalRobert 2y agoI did that, and it was horrible. The people were nasty, mean, and intellectually incurious. Conformity was valued over all other traits. Some places might be better, but this is a dangerous option.