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You know what I find odd? The fact that we don't seem to have nice payout services that I'm aware of, that would let me payout some money to a service provider

You know what I find odd? The fact that we don't seem to have nice payout services that I'm aware of, that would let me payout some money to a service provider from a platform accout, like "Hey, here is my bank account, here's their account and here's how much I want to transfer to their bank, give me an API to handle it without me needing to think about PSD2." PayPal requires the other person to either also have a PayPal or a Venmo account: https://www.paypal.com/us/business/operations/mass-payments https://www.paypal.com/us/business/operations/mass-payments Stripe requires the person to also have a Stripe account: https://docs.stripe.com/connect/add-and-pay-out-guide?dashboard-or-api=api https://docs.stripe.com/connect/add-and-pay-out-guide?dashbo... Even local solutions here in EU that allow paying with an internet bank integration, still don't give you the ability to do fully automated payouts, like Klix: https://developers.klix.app/api/ https://developers.klix.app/api/ (though they have bulk payments through the portal)

Animats 2y ago
In the US, you can do an ACH transfer, bank account to bank account. Some US banks support FedNow, which does roughly the same thing as ACH, but in seconds rather than days. It's not widely used yet. $0.045 per transaction.
- EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 2y ago
  In the US, there is also a "pay a person" scheme, where you only need to know someone's phone number or email to send them money.
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  - jeremyjacob 2y ago
    Are you referring to Zelle? I think the issue for users that keeps them on services like Venmo is primarily the UX. The Zelle experience varies depending on the customer’s bank. It’s a service run by and between the banks, who are generally not as user experience-focused as tech companies. One example of this is that there is no feedback when sending money to a phone number that is not on the platform. The funds just go into the void and are returned a couple days later. By contrast, Venmo lets the payer verify the payee with their profile picture, username, and phone number.
    - EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 2y ago
      No, not zelle. Pay a Person service is popular with credit unions and some banks. Receiver gets a message and inputs his bank account information into a form. Sender never sees that information. After the link has been established, subsequent transfers are just one click.

Animats 2y ago

In the US, you can do an ACH transfer, bank account to bank account. Some US banks support FedNow, which does roughly the same thing as ACH, but in seconds rather than days. It's not widely used yet. $0.045 per transaction.

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 2y ago
In the US, there is also a "pay a person" scheme, where you only need to know someone's phone number or email to send them money.
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- jeremyjacob 2y ago
  Are you referring to Zelle? I think the issue for users that keeps them on services like Venmo is primarily the UX. The Zelle experience varies depending on the customer’s bank. It’s a service run by and between the banks, who are generally not as user experience-focused as tech companies. One example of this is that there is no feedback when sending money to a phone number that is not on the platform. The funds just go into the void and are returned a couple days later. By contrast, Venmo lets the payer verify the payee with their profile picture, username, and phone number.
  - EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 2y ago
    No, not zelle. Pay a Person service is popular with credit unions and some banks. Receiver gets a message and inputs his bank account information into a form. Sender never sees that information. After the link has been established, subsequent transfers are just one click.