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Germany records 1.4 GW of new solar in July

8 points by rustoo 2y ago

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DataDaemon 2y ago
Imagine having 92.23GW and nuclear together, free energy for AI. Instead, let's pay 1 euro per 1kWh soon.
- stop50 2y ago
  The prices are currently going into the other direction, except for south germany. Bavarias dumb leaders will get the bill for their backward thinking.
- audunw 2y ago
  The idea of going all-in on renewables doesn’t seem like such a bad idea these days. It’s fairly obvious where things are going. Most countries won’t bother with nuclear. The countries that become experts at renewables and battery solutions will be the technology leaders of the world. I still think Germanys decision was silly and premature. But there’s something to be said at putting 100% of your focus on the technology of the future. There could be a renaissance of nuclear, but it will be temporary. Eventually advanced geothermal will kill off the only niche nuclear energy has.
toomuchtodo 2y ago
Germany appears to be installing ~1.3GW of solar per month, or ~15GW/year. Assuming battery storage picks up, it should not take very long to push their remaining coal generation out of the mix.
- audunw 2y ago
  The goal is to get rid of coal around 3034-3038, and the goal seems very achievable given recent trends: https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/spelling-out-coal-phase-out-germanys-exit-law-draft https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/spelling-out-coal...
  - toomuchtodo 2y ago
    Indeed, as long as they keep deploying clean energy, storage, and larger interconnects with neighboring grids, I think these targets are actually far too conservative; Germany could be done with coal by 2030 [1]. Tangentially, the world will be deploying ~660GW of solar per year by the end of this year (2024), and is on track to achieve a 1TW/year deployment rate within 18 months [2] [3]. Good trajectories, just need storage and transmission to pick up the pace. [1] https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/DE?wind=false&solar=false https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/DE?wind=false&solar=fal... ("ElectricityMaps: Germany") [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40727619 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40727619 (citations) [3] https://www.economist.com/leaders/2024/06/20/the-exponential-growth-of-solar-power-will-change-the-world https://www.economist.com/leaders/2024/06/20/the-exponential... | https://archive.ph/JuoYa https://archive.ph/JuoYa ("The Economist: The exponential growth of solar power will change the world")

8 points by rustoo 2y ago

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DataDaemon 2y ago

Imagine having 92.23GW and nuclear together, free energy for AI. Instead, let's pay 1 euro per 1kWh soon.

stop50 2y ago
The prices are currently going into the other direction, except for south germany. Bavarias dumb leaders will get the bill for their backward thinking.
audunw 2y ago
The idea of going all-in on renewables doesn’t seem like such a bad idea these days. It’s fairly obvious where things are going. Most countries won’t bother with nuclear. The countries that become experts at renewables and battery solutions will be the technology leaders of the world. I still think Germanys decision was silly and premature. But there’s something to be said at putting 100% of your focus on the technology of the future. There could be a renaissance of nuclear, but it will be temporary. Eventually advanced geothermal will kill off the only niche nuclear energy has.

toomuchtodo 2y ago

Germany appears to be installing ~1.3GW of solar per month, or ~15GW/year. Assuming battery storage picks up, it should not take very long to push their remaining coal generation out of the mix.

audunw 2y ago
The goal is to get rid of coal around 3034-3038, and the goal seems very achievable given recent trends: https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/spelling-out-coal-phase-out-germanys-exit-law-draft https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/spelling-out-coal...
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  Indeed, as long as they keep deploying clean energy, storage, and larger interconnects with neighboring grids, I think these targets are actually far too conservative; Germany could be done with coal by 2030 [1]. Tangentially, the world will be deploying ~660GW of solar per year by the end of this year (2024), and is on track to achieve a 1TW/year deployment rate within 18 months [2] [3]. Good trajectories, just need storage and transmission to pick up the pace. [1] https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/DE?wind=false&solar=false https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/DE?wind=false&solar=fal... ("ElectricityMaps: Germany") [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40727619 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40727619 (citations) [3] https://www.economist.com/leaders/2024/06/20/the-exponential-growth-of-solar-power-will-change-the-world https://www.economist.com/leaders/2024/06/20/the-exponential... | https://archive.ph/JuoYa https://archive.ph/JuoYa ("The Economist: The exponential growth of solar power will change the world")