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> then I have records of several billion years of past existence of life on this planet as proof that is relatively unlikely. Have you looked at that record?

> then I have records of several billion years of past existence of life on this planet as proof that is relatively unlikely. Have you looked at that record? There literal End Of The World happened 6 times! Mass extinction events like the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs. Basically everyone died 6 times, and 99% of all spieces that ever existed are extinct. Everything bigger than a squirrel died out multiple times over. > we haven’t taken a war time footing This is a fantasy that a chain smoker can quit any time he wants and will really kick the habit once he has motivation, like when the doctor tells him he has stage 4 lunch cancer! We knew about the problem for 120 years, we had the means too - a fleet of electric busses operated in London in 1901. You are on copium

lazide 2y ago
Quite familiar with the fossil record (at least as well as we know it now). The great oxidation (probably the single most apocalyptic biosphere wide event yeah?) nuked ~ 80% of the biosphere, far from all. It was the modern day equivalent of if a simple life form evolved to (energetically favorable) emit sulphuric acid and cyanide. And no known life at the time had things like hydroponics, nuclear reactors, bunkers (or concrete), chemistry, nuclear weapons, gene editing tech, etc. We’ve also had events that pushed atmospheric Co2 to > 3000 ppm, atmospheric oxygen to 35% (above current levels of 20-22%), massive asteroid strikes, etc. The whole world is running on copium right now, which is why none of the issues being brought up are being addressed. When people are no longer able to ignore it, it will change and rapidly. Probably involving over correction and create a whole slew of new (and different problems), as is the norm. As you note, we have the means. And it isn’t technically difficult. It’s just not as fun/easy/pleasant/cheap as the current behavior.
- ClumsyPilot 2y ago
  I guess the only difference in our views, is will be do anything before it's too late
  - lazide 2y ago
    Keep in mind, less than 100 years ago, half the world was literally trying to murder the other half using every effort conceivable and every bit of modern technology they could muster. Not that long before there were endemic diseases everywhere that killed 30% of everyone infected. We have a long, long, long way to go before we conceivably hit ‘too late’. Will people die? Yes. But people die anyway. If that is comforting or not, is up to you. Either way, the wheel will continue to turn.

lazide 2y ago

Quite familiar with the fossil record (at least as well as we know it now). The great oxidation (probably the single most apocalyptic biosphere wide event yeah?) nuked ~ 80% of the biosphere, far from all. It was the modern day equivalent of if a simple life form evolved to (energetically favorable) emit sulphuric acid and cyanide. And no known life at the time had things like hydroponics, nuclear reactors, bunkers (or concrete), chemistry, nuclear weapons, gene editing tech, etc. We’ve also had events that pushed atmospheric Co2 to > 3000 ppm, atmospheric oxygen to 35% (above current levels of 20-22%), massive asteroid strikes, etc. The whole world is running on copium right now, which is why none of the issues being brought up are being addressed. When people are no longer able to ignore it, it will change and rapidly. Probably involving over correction and create a whole slew of new (and different problems), as is the norm. As you note, we have the means. And it isn’t technically difficult. It’s just not as fun/easy/pleasant/cheap as the current behavior.

ClumsyPilot 2y ago
I guess the only difference in our views, is will be do anything before it's too late
- lazide 2y ago
  Keep in mind, less than 100 years ago, half the world was literally trying to murder the other half using every effort conceivable and every bit of modern technology they could muster. Not that long before there were endemic diseases everywhere that killed 30% of everyone infected. We have a long, long, long way to go before we conceivably hit ‘too late’. Will people die? Yes. But people die anyway. If that is comforting or not, is up to you. Either way, the wheel will continue to turn.