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Schmidt oversaw lots of “stealing” at Google, from Google Books (Author’s Guild), to Image Search (e.g. Perfect10 etc, before even Getty), the French press .. a

Schmidt oversaw lots of “stealing” at Google, from Google Books (Author’s Guild), to Image Search (e.g. Perfect10 etc, before even Getty), the French press .. all before Viacom vs Youtube and others. Schmidt was also notably part of the tech no-poach / wage suppression scheme ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_Litigation https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust... ). He knows very well the spectrum of stealing and liability. In this talk he’s pounding his chest in front of young investors and executives to celebrate what he got away with and to inflate his brand. Contrast though with TK, who through Greyballing (among other things) wanted to “steal” the taxi market and make himself and Uber above the law. So Schmidt’s raw ambition is no joke. But historically his actions have been perhaps more conservative than those of others.

gruez 2y ago
>Schmidt oversaw lots of “stealing” at Google, from Google Books (Author’s Guild), to Image Search (e.g. Perfect10 etc, before even Getty), the French press .. all before Viacom vs Youtube and others. At least for Author’s Guild and Perfect10, google successfully argued fair use and therefore it wasn't really "stealing". I'm too lazy to research the other cases. Despite this, you're seemingly displeased at google's behavior despite it being ruled legal. What should have they done?
- jackcosgrove 2y ago
  Legality is the lowest bar of ethical behavior.
  - izacus 2y ago
    There's nothing ethical about calling violation of purchased IP protection "stealing" either. It's a set of laws by encumbents to protect monopolies. And you can trace a lot of US monopolies and lack of healthy competitive markets directly back to those laws.
  - gruez 2y ago
    And what is your line for "ethical behavior"? What makes your line more valid than what AI companies think is ethical?
nothercastle 2y ago
YouTube was built on copyrighted works. Organic YouTube was an afterthought that happened to work out

gruez 2y ago

>Schmidt oversaw lots of “stealing” at Google, from Google Books (Author’s Guild), to Image Search (e.g. Perfect10 etc, before even Getty), the French press .. all before Viacom vs Youtube and others. At least for Author’s Guild and Perfect10, google successfully argued fair use and therefore it wasn't really "stealing". I'm too lazy to research the other cases. Despite this, you're seemingly displeased at google's behavior despite it being ruled legal. What should have they done?

jackcosgrove 2y ago
Legality is the lowest bar of ethical behavior.
- izacus 2y ago
  There's nothing ethical about calling violation of purchased IP protection "stealing" either. It's a set of laws by encumbents to protect monopolies. And you can trace a lot of US monopolies and lack of healthy competitive markets directly back to those laws.
- gruez 2y ago
  And what is your line for "ethical behavior"? What makes your line more valid than what AI companies think is ethical?

nothercastle 2y ago

YouTube was built on copyrighted works. Organic YouTube was an afterthought that happened to work out