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> But it seems you've cited an example of something ironically very anti-labor. This means your government has codified into law the false idea that all human e
by VonGallifrey 2y ago
> But it seems you've cited an example of something ironically very anti-labor. This means your government has codified into law the false idea that all human employees are undifferentiated commodities (like cattle). So as an employer, if there's no ability to remove underperformers every year
No, that is not the case. You can still fire people and you can do so especially if they are underperforming. You just can't do it as a mass layoff.
If you fire someone then you need a reason to do so. If you fire people because of a layoff then you need to show that the layoff is legitimate.
You can not just group underperformers and let them go as a layoff because you are circumventing labor law. You can not lie about the reason why you are letting someone go.
No one would care if you fired 99% of your company IF you are prepared to show they were underperforming and that was the official reason given.
- CrimsonRain 2y agoYou say a lot of things which companies can't actually do in reality. Show me examples of firing a few underperformers easily from a company.
- VonGallifrey 2y agoI was easy enough to fire for my former employers. You would probably say that it isn't EASY because in the US it is much easier to do. You might not be able to do it immediately without notice period unless the employee does something really stupid or illegal. You can however fire someone any time when you give them the notice period defined in the employment contract. You might need to give them a warning that they are underperforming first so that they can fix it before you fire them, but after that, you can just fire them. This happens ALL THE TIME, but it isn't done as a mass/group action. If you have a problem with an individual then the individual gets fired. Also, in the first 6 months, you don't need any reason and the notice period is shortened to 2 weeks.
- johnnyanmac 2y agoyou need to define "easily". No, you cannot just one day walk to an employee and say "you're fired, effective now". But it's not some multi-year ordeal just to let go of one employee in the EU. Maybe in Asia, but different culture, different sentiments.