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Do you really want the government being deeply involved in how every company defines and enforces their own terms of use? In this case I'm not sure why Google
by _heimdall 2y ago
Do you really want the government being deeply involved in how every company defines and enforces their own terms of use?
In this case I'm not sure why Google would pull Organic Maps. That doesn't mean we need the government playing a role in defining ever company's terms of service, deciding when they're broken, and enforcing the punishment. How would that even scale?
- graemep 2y agoThey already are. Most countries have consumer laws that limit terms and conditions. The same in many other areas (residential renting in many countries, exclusions for negligence that causes injuries or death,....). Most countries have competition laws that also restrict what companies can do. That is the point here. We need need government intervention when the market lacks competition.
- _heimdall 2y agoMaybe I misread the GP comment, but there is a big difference in governments defining guard rails for what isn't allowed in any T&Cs and governments being involved directly in every T&Cs.
- graemep 2y agoYes, but providing fair appeals does not require the government to be involved in evert T & C, just requiring things such as approvals be carried out impartially, and with some channel of appeal. Something like an Ombudsman scheme for app stores would do it.
- _heimdall 2y agoThat seems reasonable enough. Down with governments and regulations and all that nonsense, but in reality I don't see a problem with governments setting reasonable guard rails for what any T&Cs can or must include.
- palata 2y agoIt's exactly how it works. If some behaviour is anti-competitive, it is the role of the government to correct it. > In this case I'm not sure why Google would pull Organic Maps. Exactly. Someone competent should decide whether that is an anti-competitive move or not. Noting that a "mistake" may be anti-competitive and may deserve a fine. That someone is a government.
- _heimdall 2y agoI may have just misunderstood the GP. I read it as wanting the government to directly work on defining and enforcing Google's terms of service rather than this being an anticompetitive concern.
- phyzix5761 2y agoBut its Google's marketplace... not The Marketplace
- palata 2y agoNot sure what your point is...
- phyzix5761 2y agoMy point is why should the government regulate a private marketplace? If its not working for you go sell your stuff somewhere else. Google pays to keep the Play Store lights on. They should have every right to decide who sells on their platform. People saying that Google shouldn't be allowed to decide who can or can't sell on their platform is like saying someone should have every right to sell their wares from your front porch; even though you're the owner of the property, you pay for living there, and don't want them selling their stuff on your land. The public marketplace is a different story. If Google prevents you from selling somewhere else then the government needs to get involved because this is anti competitive behavior.
- wkat4242 2y ago
- shaky-carrousel 2y agoYes, I absolutely do, thanks.
- _heimdall 2y agoHow would you see that scaling? Are you talking about governments defining what can't be in any terms of service? Or would you prefer to see governments directly working to both define Google's rules, determining when an app breaks them, and having the government decide when to pull an app?