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How does 3 regions of the brain translate to 3 copies of the same memory? With entanglement they all work together to form the one memory no? I’m not convince

How does 3 regions of the brain translate to 3 copies of the same memory? With entanglement they all work together to form the one memory no? I’m not convinced the same memory is even isolated to one brain.

dustypotato 2y ago
Are you talking about neuronal clusters in other parts of the body
- spacebacon 2y ago
  I theorize Information may simultaneously entangle neurons around the world. Not just a humans brains.
  - dymk 2y ago
    Please elaborate, this sounds fascinating
    - spacebacon 2y ago
      I sincerely appreciate your interest. Let’s start with familiarizing with a large collection of sign systems we know about… https://github.com/space-bacon/SignSystems/blob/main/Codex-of-sign-systems.md https://github.com/space-bacon/SignSystems/blob/main/Codex-o...
      - spacebacon 2y ago
        Each of these systems contribute to information. They may be closely entangled (compared to say a rock on mars) or have more entanglement due to proximity. This “entanglement” may relay universal truths or even advanced theories on itself at the speed of information.
      - trunch 2y ago
        Intrigued by the project, love the idea of exhaustively exploring significance for arbitrary input. Think you need to provide a few example inputs and outputs on the github for the program. Also not sure a project focused on decoding meaning and signals benefits from having AI generated interpretations divorced from the inherently human act of sign interpretation. Can be seen in the md file, such a rigidly enforced structured output has forced it to give some averaged amount of weight to different categories and examples, when many are facets of each-other, or purely just expressions of something mentioned earlier. I can see free-form high-temperature llm outputs fed to another model, which serves only to aggregate their core interpretations, providing more insight than what's within the document currently.
        spacebacon 2y ago
        Thanks, I agree with that input. What are your thoughts on this from a conceptual lens? https://github.com/space-bacon/Semiotic-Analysis-Tool https://github.com/space-bacon/Semiotic-Analysis-Tool
detourdog 2y ago
I see what you are saying. It may take three regions of the brain to activate to form a memory.
a3n 2y ago
I had the same question as your first sentence. I'm not sure I understand your second sentence, as I don't follow "entanglement news." Is entanglement currently being seen as taking part in everything, everywhere? Specifically in brain processes? I'm intrigued by your third sentence. I look forward to more sentences.
- rcxdude 2y ago
  There is a (decidedly non-mainstream) idea that brain processes involve large-scale quantum effects, that quantum effects beyond just the normally expected biochemistry are essential to the functioning of the brain. There's not really much empirical evidence for it, and about the only theoretical argument is that the brain is much more efficient than a computer. I think people tend to like it because it makes brains (or more specifically human minds) feel more special.
  - jncfhnb 2y ago
    Quantum mechanics and consciousness are both weird and therefore are equivalent
    - Flop7331 2y ago
      I saw that movie. It also tried to put water memory across as fact.
  - zoklet-enjoyer 2y ago
    There's a guy in Twitter who thinks that the brain is an antenna that receives consciousness, or something like that. I'll see if I can find it, but it's kind of hard to navigate Twitter since I got banned. Edit: I couldn't find it. Something about microtubules
    - wizzwizz4 2y ago
      Are these microtubules located in the Pineal gland?
hubckeh 2y ago
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layer8 2y ago
Should be easy to test by selective lobotomy.
RaftPeople 2y ago
> How does 3 regions of the brain translate to 3 copies of the same memory? The actual paper goes into more detail: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adk0997 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adk0997 Here's a blurb from the paper that partially answers your question: > Late-born neurons were preferentially recruited for retrieval at short latency after acquisition, whereas early-born neurons were preferentially recruited at later times. These divergent trajectories recapitulated reactivation dynamics recorded through longitudinal calcium imaging experiments, which further revealed distinct network-wide responses between subpopulations.
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dustypotato 2y ago

Are you talking about neuronal clusters in other parts of the body

spacebacon 2y ago
I theorize Information may simultaneously entangle neurons around the world. Not just a humans brains.
- dymk 2y ago
  Please elaborate, this sounds fascinating
  - spacebacon 2y ago
    I sincerely appreciate your interest. Let’s start with familiarizing with a large collection of sign systems we know about… https://github.com/space-bacon/SignSystems/blob/main/Codex-of-sign-systems.md https://github.com/space-bacon/SignSystems/blob/main/Codex-o...
    - spacebacon 2y ago
      Each of these systems contribute to information. They may be closely entangled (compared to say a rock on mars) or have more entanglement due to proximity. This “entanglement” may relay universal truths or even advanced theories on itself at the speed of information.
    - trunch 2y ago
      Intrigued by the project, love the idea of exhaustively exploring significance for arbitrary input. Think you need to provide a few example inputs and outputs on the github for the program. Also not sure a project focused on decoding meaning and signals benefits from having AI generated interpretations divorced from the inherently human act of sign interpretation. Can be seen in the md file, such a rigidly enforced structured output has forced it to give some averaged amount of weight to different categories and examples, when many are facets of each-other, or purely just expressions of something mentioned earlier. I can see free-form high-temperature llm outputs fed to another model, which serves only to aggregate their core interpretations, providing more insight than what's within the document currently.
      - spacebacon 2y ago
        Thanks, I agree with that input. What are your thoughts on this from a conceptual lens? https://github.com/space-bacon/Semiotic-Analysis-Tool https://github.com/space-bacon/Semiotic-Analysis-Tool

detourdog 2y ago

I see what you are saying. It may take three regions of the brain to activate to form a memory.

a3n 2y ago

I had the same question as your first sentence. I'm not sure I understand your second sentence, as I don't follow "entanglement news." Is entanglement currently being seen as taking part in everything, everywhere? Specifically in brain processes? I'm intrigued by your third sentence. I look forward to more sentences.

rcxdude 2y ago
There is a (decidedly non-mainstream) idea that brain processes involve large-scale quantum effects, that quantum effects beyond just the normally expected biochemistry are essential to the functioning of the brain. There's not really much empirical evidence for it, and about the only theoretical argument is that the brain is much more efficient than a computer. I think people tend to like it because it makes brains (or more specifically human minds) feel more special.
- jncfhnb 2y ago
  Quantum mechanics and consciousness are both weird and therefore are equivalent
  - Flop7331 2y ago
    I saw that movie. It also tried to put water memory across as fact.
- zoklet-enjoyer 2y ago
  There's a guy in Twitter who thinks that the brain is an antenna that receives consciousness, or something like that. I'll see if I can find it, but it's kind of hard to navigate Twitter since I got banned. Edit: I couldn't find it. Something about microtubules
  - wizzwizz4 2y ago
    Are these microtubules located in the Pineal gland?

hubckeh 2y ago

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layer8 2y ago

Should be easy to test by selective lobotomy.

RaftPeople 2y ago

> How does 3 regions of the brain translate to 3 copies of the same memory? The actual paper goes into more detail: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adk0997 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adk0997 Here's a blurb from the paper that partially answers your question: > Late-born neurons were preferentially recruited for retrieval at short latency after acquisition, whereas early-born neurons were preferentially recruited at later times. These divergent trajectories recapitulated reactivation dynamics recorded through longitudinal calcium imaging experiments, which further revealed distinct network-wide responses between subpopulations.

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