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On the one hand I agree that it's a bit silly that the messaging isn't clear. On the other hand, from my experience with Android installation, providing easy st

On the one hand I agree that it's a bit silly that the messaging isn't clear. On the other hand, from my experience with Android installation, providing easy steps for end users who don't know what they're agreeing with leads to lots of malware and other nasty stuff. Android has recently started blocking users from granting some sensitive permissions to apps from settings dialogues spawned by the app itself for this reason. You need to manually open the settings to grant the most sensitive permissions. This has the benefit of requiring the user to know what power they're granting these apps, but the process is a lot less straight-forward than this was on iOS.

epolanski 2y ago
I've never had a malware on Android like ever. Let alone you need to manually give permissions to everything.
- miki123211 2y ago
  > I've never had a malware on Android like ever. Unfortunately, it's somewhat common among the less tech-savvy. In countries where Android is more popular, a lot of scam callers call to tell you that your phone has a virus and to install their "special app", of course the special app needs to check that there's no virus hiding in the camera so it needs camera permissions, of course it's safe if it has made-by-the-police in the name. People who don't know how tech works absolutely fall for this.
- wappieslurkz 2y ago
  How do you know you've never had any malware? Isn't most malware designed to be as stealth as possible?
xg15 2y ago
Yeah, genuine security concerns are one thing, blocking competition or things that threaten your business model is another.
illiac786 2y ago
The problem here (in the malware case) is that the user is not reading or understanding the warnings. Making it harder for the user to do what he wants is not the right solution, apple should focus on making sure the user knows what he wants: the warning should be clearer or more explicit. Otherwise apple is penalising everyone that knows what they’re doing, it makes gamers angry, it’s just a bad look.

epolanski 2y ago

I've never had a malware on Android like ever. Let alone you need to manually give permissions to everything.

miki123211 2y ago
> I've never had a malware on Android like ever. Unfortunately, it's somewhat common among the less tech-savvy. In countries where Android is more popular, a lot of scam callers call to tell you that your phone has a virus and to install their "special app", of course the special app needs to check that there's no virus hiding in the camera so it needs camera permissions, of course it's safe if it has made-by-the-police in the name. People who don't know how tech works absolutely fall for this.
wappieslurkz 2y ago
How do you know you've never had any malware? Isn't most malware designed to be as stealth as possible?

xg15 2y ago

Yeah, genuine security concerns are one thing, blocking competition or things that threaten your business model is another.

illiac786 2y ago

The problem here (in the malware case) is that the user is not reading or understanding the warnings. Making it harder for the user to do what he wants is not the right solution, apple should focus on making sure the user knows what he wants: the warning should be clearer or more explicit. Otherwise apple is penalising everyone that knows what they’re doing, it makes gamers angry, it’s just a bad look.