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> “I suggest everyone working in the EU to learn their rights and to consult a lawyer when something doesn't feel right, doesn't cost much here, initial consult

by pavlov 2y ago

> “I suggest everyone working in the EU to learn their rights and to consult a lawyer when something doesn't feel right, doesn't cost much here, initial consultations are often even free” In many European countries unions provide free legal support. Join the union even if things are good for you now, and you don’t have to go hunting for legal help if one day you feel like your employer isn’t being fair.

throwaway744678 2y ago
You don't even need to join to get access to the support.
justincormack 2y ago
In the UK ACAS provide free support as well.
- GJim 2y ago
  ACAS are terrific.... ...a government body providing impartial advice for employers and employees to improve industrial relations. I can't recommend them enough. https://www.acas.org.uk/ https://www.acas.org.uk/
nolok 2y ago
In France it's mandatory in a company to have a "company union", after 10 employee it's one representative (employee who has part of his paid time dedicated to employees support functions, and it grows to more and more the more employees there is. Whether those representative act on their own, or join a national union or syndicate, is their own decision, and they're elected every 4 years. Any meeting or importance between an employee and his employer, he can request one of the representative be present to assist him (and in some type of meeting, it is pretty much mandatory to avoid employer pressuring against). Etc etc ... Our system is far from perfect, but at least having SOMEONE in the company to turn to seem to make sense to me.
- Lev1a 2y ago
  > In France it's mandatory in a company to have a "company union", after 10 employee it's one representative (employee who has part of his paid time dedicated to employees support functions, and it grows to more and more the more employees there is. In Germany, that's called "Betriebsrat" (something like "company council") with pretty much the same purpose. And then there's the "Gewerkschaft", which are unions not for one company but for entire sectors of the economy who - through their numbers of members - are able to do collective bargaining for the employees of their fields of various companies. E.g. "IG Metall" being the industrial union of metalworkers, which considering Germanys large manufacturing background is the largest union in the country. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Metall https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Metall
  - com 2y ago
    I think that the standard translation into UK English of “Betriebsrat” is “Works Council” [1]. I’ve never been highly convinced by these organs, since they seem to be colonised by folks who want to become Very Difficult to Fire, and who ultimately fold to any poorly thought-through management decision that impacts the lives of employees. I’ve come to that both as an individual contributor and as a senior manager, but YMMV. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_council https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_council

by pavlov 2y ago

throwaway744678 2y ago

You don't even need to join to get access to the support.

justincormack 2y ago

In the UK ACAS provide free support as well.

GJim 2y ago
ACAS are terrific.... ...a government body providing impartial advice for employers and employees to improve industrial relations. I can't recommend them enough. https://www.acas.org.uk/ https://www.acas.org.uk/

nolok 2y ago

In France it's mandatory in a company to have a "company union", after 10 employee it's one representative (employee who has part of his paid time dedicated to employees support functions, and it grows to more and more the more employees there is. Whether those representative act on their own, or join a national union or syndicate, is their own decision, and they're elected every 4 years. Any meeting or importance between an employee and his employer, he can request one of the representative be present to assist him (and in some type of meeting, it is pretty much mandatory to avoid employer pressuring against). Etc etc ... Our system is far from perfect, but at least having SOMEONE in the company to turn to seem to make sense to me.

Lev1a 2y ago
> In France it's mandatory in a company to have a "company union", after 10 employee it's one representative (employee who has part of his paid time dedicated to employees support functions, and it grows to more and more the more employees there is. In Germany, that's called "Betriebsrat" (something like "company council") with pretty much the same purpose. And then there's the "Gewerkschaft", which are unions not for one company but for entire sectors of the economy who - through their numbers of members - are able to do collective bargaining for the employees of their fields of various companies. E.g. "IG Metall" being the industrial union of metalworkers, which considering Germanys large manufacturing background is the largest union in the country. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Metall https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Metall
- com 2y ago
  I think that the standard translation into UK English of “Betriebsrat” is “Works Council” [1]. I’ve never been highly convinced by these organs, since they seem to be colonised by folks who want to become Very Difficult to Fire, and who ultimately fold to any poorly thought-through management decision that impacts the lives of employees. I’ve come to that both as an individual contributor and as a senior manager, but YMMV. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_council https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_council