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Not only is paying taxes not even correlated with education spending, spending per student is extremely high all across the USA and results are extremely poor,

Not only is paying taxes not even correlated with education spending, spending per student is extremely high all across the USA and results are extremely poor, especially on a spending basis.

searealist 2y ago
While spending is high, results are among the best in the world.
- tourmalinetaco 2y ago
  Certainly not across the board, and especially not in poorer areas that cannot/will not fund their schools. That is an incredibly general statement that simply is factually incorrect.
  - searealist 2y ago
    My statement is absolutely true once you control for demographics.
    - tourmalinetaco 2y ago
      Can you provide sources for this then?
      - TMWNN 2y ago
        Since searealist has not, I will. <https://x.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1732087511327908128 https://x.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1732087511327908128> Basically, every US ethnic group does better than their countries of origin.
        tourmalinetaco 2y ago
        Thank you for the source, this is rather interesting. However I believe there’s some level of miscommunication. My original comment was in reference to the inequality within the distribution of funds due to inequality of tax revenue across the country, and how that affects the learning opportunities of less-privileged kids who, I would argue, are in more of a need for better education to escape their lower income bracket.
        TMWNN 2y ago
        >My original comment was in reference to the inequality within the distribution of funds due to inequality of tax revenue across the country I was responding to your request for evidence for searealist's statements that the US educational system is the best in the world when accounting for ethnicity. But, since you brought it up: Contrary to what is often said, there is very little evidence that funding affects outcome at all. New York City spends more per student than anywhere else in the US. <https://www.silive.com/news/2019/06/how-much-does-new-york-city-spend-on-each-student.html https://www.silive.com/news/2019/06/how-much-does-new-york-c...> Baltimore, an incredibly poor and run-down city, spends the third most. #4-6 and #8 are all wealthy suburbs of Washington DC, but their schools are all far better than those of Baltimore or NYC on average, despite Baltimore spending slightly more per student and NYC spending 60-70% more. (With that in mind, now reread the above Twitter thread.)
TMWNN 2y ago
>Not only is paying taxes not even correlated with education spending, spending per student is extremely high all across the USA Correct. Contrary to what is often said, there is no shortage whatsoever of funding for public schools in urban areas. New York City spends more per student than anywhere else in the US. <https://www.silive.com/news/2019/06/how-much-does-new-york-city-spend-on-each-student.html https://www.silive.com/news/2019/06/how-much-does-new-york-c...> Baltimore, an incredibly poor and run-down city, spends the third most. #4-6 and #8 are all wealthy suburbs of Washington DC, but their schools are all far better than those of Baltimore or NYC on average, despite Baltimore spending slightly more per student and NYC spending 60-70% more. >and results are extremely poor, especially on a spending basis. Perhaps the latter is true, but the former is not. <https://x.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1732478253225443777 https://x.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1732478253225443777> Basically, every US ethnic group does better than their countries of origin.

Not only is paying taxes not even correlated with education spending, spending per student is extremely high all across the USA and results are extremely poor, especially on a spending basis.

searealist 2y ago

While spending is high, results are among the best in the world.

tourmalinetaco 2y ago
Certainly not across the board, and especially not in poorer areas that cannot/will not fund their schools. That is an incredibly general statement that simply is factually incorrect.
- searealist 2y ago
  My statement is absolutely true once you control for demographics.
  - tourmalinetaco 2y ago
    Can you provide sources for this then?
    - TMWNN 2y ago
      Since searealist has not, I will. <https://x.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1732087511327908128 https://x.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1732087511327908128> Basically, every US ethnic group does better than their countries of origin.
      - tourmalinetaco 2y ago
        Thank you for the source, this is rather interesting. However I believe there’s some level of miscommunication. My original comment was in reference to the inequality within the distribution of funds due to inequality of tax revenue across the country, and how that affects the learning opportunities of less-privileged kids who, I would argue, are in more of a need for better education to escape their lower income bracket.
        TMWNN 2y ago
        >My original comment was in reference to the inequality within the distribution of funds due to inequality of tax revenue across the country I was responding to your request for evidence for searealist's statements that the US educational system is the best in the world when accounting for ethnicity. But, since you brought it up: Contrary to what is often said, there is very little evidence that funding affects outcome at all. New York City spends more per student than anywhere else in the US. <https://www.silive.com/news/2019/06/how-much-does-new-york-city-spend-on-each-student.html https://www.silive.com/news/2019/06/how-much-does-new-york-c...> Baltimore, an incredibly poor and run-down city, spends the third most. #4-6 and #8 are all wealthy suburbs of Washington DC, but their schools are all far better than those of Baltimore or NYC on average, despite Baltimore spending slightly more per student and NYC spending 60-70% more. (With that in mind, now reread the above Twitter thread.)

TMWNN 2y ago

>Not only is paying taxes not even correlated with education spending, spending per student is extremely high all across the USA Correct. Contrary to what is often said, there is no shortage whatsoever of funding for public schools in urban areas. New York City spends more per student than anywhere else in the US. <https://www.silive.com/news/2019/06/how-much-does-new-york-city-spend-on-each-student.html https://www.silive.com/news/2019/06/how-much-does-new-york-c...> Baltimore, an incredibly poor and run-down city, spends the third most. #4-6 and #8 are all wealthy suburbs of Washington DC, but their schools are all far better than those of Baltimore or NYC on average, despite Baltimore spending slightly more per student and NYC spending 60-70% more. >and results are extremely poor, especially on a spending basis. Perhaps the latter is true, but the former is not. <https://x.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1732478253225443777 https://x.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1732478253225443777> Basically, every US ethnic group does better than their countries of origin.