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Tax is for us working-class slobs. Nobody with mobility options pays taxes. But that’s not the problem: your betters have convinced you that they need to take

Tax is for us working-class slobs. Nobody with mobility options pays taxes. But that’s not the problem: your betters have convinced you that they need to take 50%+ of your earnings to pay their elite friends for things you’ll never see. And if you don’t like it, they’ll just print money (inflating your currency and thus looting your savings), and buy it anyway. So: it’s our own fault for allowing them to force us to use their fraudulent money.

carlosjobim 2y ago
> Tax is for us working-class slobs. If you are a worker, it is essential to protect any monetary assets you have in a tax haven. The rich don't actually need tax havens that much, because most of their profits come from government subsidies or other money tricks and fakery. As a worker, you don't have access to free corruption money like them, so better protect what you have. Tax havens are equalizers, just like people have called guns equalizers. It is much cheaper than what most people imagine to set up accounts and companies in tax havens, it is accessible for any skilled worker, unlike almost everything else that the elite gets to enjoy.
- armada651 2y ago
  This solves nothing, just like with guns it just accelerates a race to the bottom. If no one pays taxes and everybody hoards their money just like the elite then no one is going to pay for the public services everybody needs.
  - carlosjobim 2y ago
    If workers continue paying taxes to the elite, the situation will continue to deteriorate. We can pretend that your tax dollar goes to public services, when in reality maybe 70c on the dollar goes to corruption to benefit the elites.
armada651 2y ago
This has always been the case for the history of mankind. We are no longer serfs being ruled by kings and the aristocracy, but the fundamental economic relationship hasn't changed. The only thing that was fixed was that the upper class were forced to give the lower class civil rights and a better standard of living. However the upper class is hard at work to take those away again and make us go back to the good old days. Once the elite start paying tax like everyone else, that's when something really fundamental has changed in human history.
sottol 2y ago
Most of the (federal) tax money goes to Social Securiy + Medicare/aid, servicing interest and funding the military, probably 60-70% afair. It's hardly "pay[ing] their elite friends for things you’ll never see"?
- Arainach 2y ago
  I'm a huge fan of paying taxes, social support networks, etc., but the military-industrial complex is very much "paying their elite friends for things you'll never see". Maybe before a sports game you'll get to see a few of the planes...

carlosjobim 2y ago

> Tax is for us working-class slobs. If you are a worker, it is essential to protect any monetary assets you have in a tax haven. The rich don't actually need tax havens that much, because most of their profits come from government subsidies or other money tricks and fakery. As a worker, you don't have access to free corruption money like them, so better protect what you have. Tax havens are equalizers, just like people have called guns equalizers. It is much cheaper than what most people imagine to set up accounts and companies in tax havens, it is accessible for any skilled worker, unlike almost everything else that the elite gets to enjoy.

armada651 2y ago
This solves nothing, just like with guns it just accelerates a race to the bottom. If no one pays taxes and everybody hoards their money just like the elite then no one is going to pay for the public services everybody needs.
- carlosjobim 2y ago
  If workers continue paying taxes to the elite, the situation will continue to deteriorate. We can pretend that your tax dollar goes to public services, when in reality maybe 70c on the dollar goes to corruption to benefit the elites.

armada651 2y ago

This has always been the case for the history of mankind. We are no longer serfs being ruled by kings and the aristocracy, but the fundamental economic relationship hasn't changed. The only thing that was fixed was that the upper class were forced to give the lower class civil rights and a better standard of living. However the upper class is hard at work to take those away again and make us go back to the good old days. Once the elite start paying tax like everyone else, that's when something really fundamental has changed in human history.

sottol 2y ago

Most of the (federal) tax money goes to Social Securiy + Medicare/aid, servicing interest and funding the military, probably 60-70% afair. It's hardly "pay[ing] their elite friends for things you’ll never see"?

Arainach 2y ago
I'm a huge fan of paying taxes, social support networks, etc., but the military-industrial complex is very much "paying their elite friends for things you'll never see". Maybe before a sports game you'll get to see a few of the planes...