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Forbes 30 under 30 inductee charged with fraud in the same week (2020)

53 points by popcalc 2y ago

popcalc 2y ago
Must be the quickest turnaround yet.
nuforia 2y ago
(2020)
wcfields 2y ago
I can imagine the SDNY attorney general gets the 30u30 list each year like its other office’s March Madness brackets.
zelphirkalt 2y ago
Want to have a guess how many of the Forbes 30 are corrupt?
zoenolan 2y ago
Patrick Boyle on Forbes 30 Under 30 https://youtu.be/V36kSqwjaaw https://youtu.be/V36kSqwjaaw
- datadrivenangel 2y ago
  This doesn't even get into the fact that there are consultants who will basically bribe previous 30 under 30 winners to vouch for you, so it's partially pay to play.
- BORGMESTER 2y ago
  Great content, but the guy talks in monotone and put me to sleep. It's as if he's reading from a script in front of him.
abbadadda 2y ago
Let’s see the Forbes 100 under 100 list!!
ortusdux 2y ago
I had to double check that it wasn't 30 under 30 media luminary Griffin Mcelroy
HenryBemis 2y ago
I've met so many X under X in my life, working in big banking and big consultancies ("the big 4") and they range between useless/yes-men/yes-women/Peter Principle achievers at 29/butt-kissers/diversity-hires/sociopaths/psychopaths and many other despicable (non-meritocratic) attributes. So anytime I see on a magazine articles like that, I safely ignore the whole thing (and ofc I never click X u X articles - I got better things to waste my time on)(I just wanted to leave this comment here to save other people the time of focusing on X u X lists and people)(exceptions are always there, but a safe bet is that if you shake the hands of 28 out of 30, you better wash your hands afterwards.
oksurewhynot 2y ago
speedrun any%
up2isomorphism 2y ago
It is not surprising to me at all. Most of the people that I personally know showing up in Forbes x under x , do not have the best history of honesty.
ren_engineer 2y ago
30 under 30 is going to inherently attract the wrong sort of people because the people actually worthy of it don't care about it. It basically acts as social proof, which the most successful people already have from their own work. Similar to Mensa in that the majority of the smartest people aren't going to feel the need to be validated by taking the time to join
- borski 2y ago
  Someone I worked with very closely for many years really wanted to be Forbes 30 under 30. They never got it, but got plenty of other random awards that didn’t matter. I never really understood it, because it was so clearly BS; it didn’t help with marketing or PR past like a week, and we had plenty of that from news stories and actual, real PR. And it wasn’t a real award; it’s not like there was something to be proud of there. I eventually figured it out - it was a notch in their belt that they wanted so that they could point to it as proof of worth. They sought out those various “pay us $2000 and we’ll put you on the cover of our magazine” nonsense things too, even getting them framed and putting them up on the wall, due to what turned out to be feelings of inferiority and a need to feel like they were making progress, even if it wasn’t the right kind of progress. Needless to say, those didn’t help us at all and were a waste of time and money. Focusing on customers and PR that got in front of them worked much better.
- FireBeyond 2y ago
  I saw a stat that if you look at Forbes' "... Under 30" list, collectively, they have been accused/charged/convicted of stealing/scamming more money than their companies have generated revenue. And then I saw a tweet a while back, that I admittedly can no longer find, that if you were to filter for "Stanford" in that list, the ratio blows out to nearly 3:1 (ill-gotten gains:revenue).
xyst 2y ago
> December 2, 2020 / 5:33 PM CST / CBS Chicago Add (2020) to title
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itsdrewmiller 2y ago
Better article on this subject: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/apr/06/forbes-30-under-30-tech-finance-prison https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/apr/06/forbes-30-u...

53 points by popcalc 2y ago

popcalc 2y ago

Must be the quickest turnaround yet.

nuforia 2y ago

(2020)

wcfields 2y ago

I can imagine the SDNY attorney general gets the 30u30 list each year like its other office’s March Madness brackets.

zelphirkalt 2y ago

Want to have a guess how many of the Forbes 30 are corrupt?

zoenolan 2y ago

Patrick Boyle on Forbes 30 Under 30 https://youtu.be/V36kSqwjaaw https://youtu.be/V36kSqwjaaw

datadrivenangel 2y ago
This doesn't even get into the fact that there are consultants who will basically bribe previous 30 under 30 winners to vouch for you, so it's partially pay to play.
BORGMESTER 2y ago
Great content, but the guy talks in monotone and put me to sleep. It's as if he's reading from a script in front of him.

abbadadda 2y ago

Let’s see the Forbes 100 under 100 list!!

ortusdux 2y ago

I had to double check that it wasn't 30 under 30 media luminary Griffin Mcelroy

HenryBemis 2y ago

I've met so many X under X in my life, working in big banking and big consultancies ("the big 4") and they range between useless/yes-men/yes-women/Peter Principle achievers at 29/butt-kissers/diversity-hires/sociopaths/psychopaths and many other despicable (non-meritocratic) attributes. So anytime I see on a magazine articles like that, I safely ignore the whole thing (and ofc I never click X u X articles - I got better things to waste my time on)(I just wanted to leave this comment here to save other people the time of focusing on X u X lists and people)(exceptions are always there, but a safe bet is that if you shake the hands of 28 out of 30, you better wash your hands afterwards.

oksurewhynot 2y ago

speedrun any%

up2isomorphism 2y ago

It is not surprising to me at all. Most of the people that I personally know showing up in Forbes x under x , do not have the best history of honesty.

ren_engineer 2y ago

30 under 30 is going to inherently attract the wrong sort of people because the people actually worthy of it don't care about it. It basically acts as social proof, which the most successful people already have from their own work. Similar to Mensa in that the majority of the smartest people aren't going to feel the need to be validated by taking the time to join

borski 2y ago
Someone I worked with very closely for many years really wanted to be Forbes 30 under 30. They never got it, but got plenty of other random awards that didn’t matter. I never really understood it, because it was so clearly BS; it didn’t help with marketing or PR past like a week, and we had plenty of that from news stories and actual, real PR. And it wasn’t a real award; it’s not like there was something to be proud of there. I eventually figured it out - it was a notch in their belt that they wanted so that they could point to it as proof of worth. They sought out those various “pay us $2000 and we’ll put you on the cover of our magazine” nonsense things too, even getting them framed and putting them up on the wall, due to what turned out to be feelings of inferiority and a need to feel like they were making progress, even if it wasn’t the right kind of progress. Needless to say, those didn’t help us at all and were a waste of time and money. Focusing on customers and PR that got in front of them worked much better.
FireBeyond 2y ago
I saw a stat that if you look at Forbes' "... Under 30" list, collectively, they have been accused/charged/convicted of stealing/scamming more money than their companies have generated revenue. And then I saw a tweet a while back, that I admittedly can no longer find, that if you were to filter for "Stanford" in that list, the ratio blows out to nearly 3:1 (ill-gotten gains:revenue).

xyst 2y ago

> December 2, 2020 / 5:33 PM CST / CBS Chicago Add (2020) to title

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itsdrewmiller 2y ago

Better article on this subject: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/apr/06/forbes-30-under-30-tech-finance-prison https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/apr/06/forbes-30-u...