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They also recently raised prices a ton and changed the menu. [edit] to put some numbers on it: just the other day I saw one attached to a gas station where jus

They also recently raised prices a ton and changed the menu. [edit] to put some numbers on it: just the other day I saw one attached to a gas station where just about any foot long was $13+. Six-inchers? $10!!! I just today happened to go to a fairly fancy sandwich place. Their sandwiches were $13-15, at least as much eating as a foot long from subway, and came with two sides. Like, it was enough food for two people, really, and good. I guarantee their ingredient costs are 3x Subway’s. Their prices are insanely out of wack with reality. A $5 foot long may not be in the cards anymore, given actual inflation on their costs, but they can’t charge entire-meal-with-very-good sandwich prices for a much shittier sandwich all on its own, and not expect a drop in sales.

dawnerd 2y ago
and screw over franchise owners resulting in many locations opting out of promos. But yes, charging 12 bucks for something that was 5 bucks a few years ago is the reason people are not visiting. And from the article franchise owners are complaining about promo prices at 7 dollars. Sounds like a mix of really bad business owners all around.
- ChrisMarshallNY 2y ago
  John Oliver did a really good segment on how bad it is to be a Subway franchisee. They are especially bad. There was a fun fake Korean "Sandwich drama" bit.
  - dbg31415 2y ago
    Wow! I didn't know this existed. (I'm only a few minutes in, but John Oliver is pretty much always spot on amazing.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDdYFhzVCDM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDdYFhzVCDM As a former teenager who worked for Subway... seems like it's fallen quite a bit from the early 90s.
    - ChrisMarshallNY 2y ago
      Sorry that you got dinged. John Oliver is rather unpopular with a lot of the HN crowd, so I tend not to link to his videos.
      - dbg31415 2y ago
        [flagged]
        collingreen 2y ago
        > If you disagree with him, you’re probably either a corrupt hypocrite, or on a corrupt hypocrite's payroll. I agree with a lot of what you said but not this; this kind of thinking is a problem. I love John Oliver and think lots of his content is funny and good. I also, however, notice that his coverage tends to gloss over some things or outright get things wrong when I look into it more. While not ideal this seems reasonable to me - most ACTUAL REPORTING does an abysmal job in this way and LWT is a COMEDY show. I have no problem with John Oliver nor the show but I think a "nobody can disagree on this in good faith" stance is a bad take and one that John Oliver himself would probably be against.
        dbg31415 2y ago
        I think it's really hard to disagree with people who make you laugh. No dis on "ACTUAL REPORTING" but "COMEDY" is far preferable, and generally a lot more honest in how it helps you understand what you're learning about. "A sense of humour is just common sense, dancing." - Clive James
        ChrisMarshallNY 2y ago
        > He's also hilariously roasted crypto My favorite "Crypo Roaster" is https://www.web3isgoinggreat.com https://www.web3isgoinggreat.com She just lets Web3 roast itself.
- upon_drumhead 2y ago
  Subway discontinued the $5 footlong deal in 2015. https://www.distractify.com/p/what-happened-to-five-dollar-footlongs https://www.distractify.com/p/what-happened-to-five-dollar-f...
  - dawnerd 2y ago
    And yet that price stuck around for a long time after... even so, does 10 years justify over doubling the price?
gloryjulio 2y ago
With that kind of price might as well eat steak at home everyday. I use steak index as way to gauge if I want to eat out. And nowadays it's mostly likely cheaper to cook steaks at home
jabroni_salad 2y ago
honestly the menu change was a genius move, it raised prices without raising prices. Prominently display preconfigured versions of your existing items, all of them with 'extra cheese' buried in the description. They charge $1.50 for two slices of processed cheese, quite possibly one of the worst value tack-ons in all of fast food. The stuff you used to order is now shoved all the way down to the other side of the counter from where you order. You'll never order from it unless you already know about it.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago
  Surely the worst value has to go to purchasing a $2+ beverage? I have been told the cup in which it is served can be more expensive than the drink itself.
bachmeier 2y ago
> I saw one attached to a gas station where just about any foot long was $13+. Six-inchers? $10!!! Yep. Basically nothing on the menu for under $13 for a 12-inch, and they've made it clear they're not interested in selling 6-inch sandwiches. I was thinking the other day that this is the danger of setting numerical targets. Obviously an MBA in the executive suite thinks it's important to maximize the per customer revenue per visit. Easiest way to do that is to run off every customer that doesn't hit that numerical target.

dawnerd 2y ago

and screw over franchise owners resulting in many locations opting out of promos. But yes, charging 12 bucks for something that was 5 bucks a few years ago is the reason people are not visiting. And from the article franchise owners are complaining about promo prices at 7 dollars. Sounds like a mix of really bad business owners all around.

ChrisMarshallNY 2y ago
John Oliver did a really good segment on how bad it is to be a Subway franchisee. They are especially bad. There was a fun fake Korean "Sandwich drama" bit.
- dbg31415 2y ago
  Wow! I didn't know this existed. (I'm only a few minutes in, but John Oliver is pretty much always spot on amazing.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDdYFhzVCDM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDdYFhzVCDM As a former teenager who worked for Subway... seems like it's fallen quite a bit from the early 90s.
  - ChrisMarshallNY 2y ago
    Sorry that you got dinged. John Oliver is rather unpopular with a lot of the HN crowd, so I tend not to link to his videos.
    - dbg31415 2y ago
      [flagged]
      - collingreen 2y ago
        > If you disagree with him, you’re probably either a corrupt hypocrite, or on a corrupt hypocrite's payroll. I agree with a lot of what you said but not this; this kind of thinking is a problem. I love John Oliver and think lots of his content is funny and good. I also, however, notice that his coverage tends to gloss over some things or outright get things wrong when I look into it more. While not ideal this seems reasonable to me - most ACTUAL REPORTING does an abysmal job in this way and LWT is a COMEDY show. I have no problem with John Oliver nor the show but I think a "nobody can disagree on this in good faith" stance is a bad take and one that John Oliver himself would probably be against.
        dbg31415 2y ago
        I think it's really hard to disagree with people who make you laugh. No dis on "ACTUAL REPORTING" but "COMEDY" is far preferable, and generally a lot more honest in how it helps you understand what you're learning about. "A sense of humour is just common sense, dancing." - Clive James
      - ChrisMarshallNY 2y ago
        > He's also hilariously roasted crypto My favorite "Crypo Roaster" is https://www.web3isgoinggreat.com https://www.web3isgoinggreat.com She just lets Web3 roast itself.
upon_drumhead 2y ago
Subway discontinued the $5 footlong deal in 2015. https://www.distractify.com/p/what-happened-to-five-dollar-footlongs https://www.distractify.com/p/what-happened-to-five-dollar-f...
- dawnerd 2y ago
  And yet that price stuck around for a long time after... even so, does 10 years justify over doubling the price?

gloryjulio 2y ago

With that kind of price might as well eat steak at home everyday. I use steak index as way to gauge if I want to eat out. And nowadays it's mostly likely cheaper to cook steaks at home

jabroni_salad 2y ago

honestly the menu change was a genius move, it raised prices without raising prices. Prominently display preconfigured versions of your existing items, all of them with 'extra cheese' buried in the description. They charge $1.50 for two slices of processed cheese, quite possibly one of the worst value tack-ons in all of fast food. The stuff you used to order is now shoved all the way down to the other side of the counter from where you order. You'll never order from it unless you already know about it.

0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago
Surely the worst value has to go to purchasing a $2+ beverage? I have been told the cup in which it is served can be more expensive than the drink itself.

bachmeier 2y ago

> I saw one attached to a gas station where just about any foot long was $13+. Six-inchers? $10!!! Yep. Basically nothing on the menu for under $13 for a 12-inch, and they've made it clear they're not interested in selling 6-inch sandwiches. I was thinking the other day that this is the danger of setting numerical targets. Obviously an MBA in the executive suite thinks it's important to maximize the per customer revenue per visit. Easiest way to do that is to run off every customer that doesn't hit that numerical target.