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Hi Stavrosk, I work at dotCloud. I understand your concern. However allow me to contribute 3 points: - If you think of dotCloud as expensive hosting, then don'
by shykes 14y ago
Hi Stavrosk, I work at dotCloud. I understand your concern. However allow me to contribute 3 points:
- If you think of dotCloud as expensive hosting, then don't use it because you're missing the key value proposition. DotCloud is affordable managed hosting: we do the work of operating, monitoring, maintaining which you would otherwise need to do yourself. And we do it better and more cost-effectively than our customers could do it, because it's all we do for hundreds of thousands of deployments.
- dotCloud scales down way better than iaas. What's the cheapest ec2 setup with production trafic, load-balancing, failover and monitoring, plus a bunch of sandbox environments? Hint: we're cheaper.
- Our large customers benefit from volume discounts
- StavrosK 14y agoHmm, affordable managed hosting sounds better. If I need, say, my Postgres instance tuned to my specific workloads, is that included in the price? I assume service configurations are editable, please correct me if I'm wrong. What do you guys manage exactly? What sort of work am I saving if I get dotcloud?
- shykes 14y agoHere's a non-exhaustive list of things we take care of for you: - We curate a configuration of each service that "just works", and we maintain it over time for upgrades and security patches. - We implement scaling and reliability best practices for each service: load-balancing, deployment across multiple datacenters, database replication and failover, hot deploy, strict change management, etc. We do this in production at a very large scale, so even for a very small application you benefit from the equivalent of a 20-people ops team serving tens of millions of uniques. - We actively monitor and support everything we deploy, and are on call 24/7 to fix things when they break. This is important because 100% automation never happens in the real world. When things break we fix them, or help you fix them. We've been known to fix bugs in our customer's code, but don't tell anybody :) Our job is to be a provider you can trust to run your stuff in the long run. That's what PaaS is supposed to be.
- StavrosK 14y agoThanks, shykes, it seems that my needs are just different for now, but I can definitely see how a larger company might go with DotCloud.