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Even after looking at that, it doesn't seem that bad. It's about the same as installing a management or configuration profile, but arguably, has the potential f
by LeoPanthera 2y ago
Even after looking at that, it doesn't seem that bad. It's about the same as installing a management or configuration profile, but arguably, has the potential for more risk to your data privacy, so I wouldn't expect it to be easy.
OK, it could definitely use some more polish, but this is literally the first time Apple has done this.
- Spivak 2y agoAnd I don't think the dialogs are malicious or anything, I would do the same thing because I don't want people complaining to me and you have to hammer it into people because no one reads. Edit: To be clear I'm also in the set of people who don't read.
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- idle_zealot 2y agoMore screens to click through only guarantees that nobody will read them. For a warning to be effective you need to keep it short and simple.
- borski 2y agoThat’s only true if you’re installing many third-party app stores. Showing a warning once, or even a couple times, doesn’t necessarily cause the same desensitization.
- Ambroos 2y agoI'm sorry but the way they interrupt the flow so many times is ridiculous. It would take minimal changes to make this flow non-disruptive but Apple wants users to drop off as much as possible during installation.
- gruez 2y ago>I'm sorry but the way they interrupt the flow so many times is ridiculous. There's similar number of steps to trust a third party root certificate, or a set a third party DoH provider. Do you also think those tasks should be 1click as well?
- RandomThoughts3 2y agoPlease, do enlighten us about how voluntarily installing a competing store is in any way similar to installing a third party root certificate.
- gruez 2y agoThey're both gatekeepers. One is for iOS apps, the other is for websites. I'm not sure how "voluntarily" is a relevant factor here. People can and do install alternate roots, especially back in the days when letsencrypt didn't exist and the WebTrust/CAB monopoly was charging tens to hundreds of dollars for certificates.
- RandomThoughts3 2y ago> They're both gatekeepers. At some point, you go past squinting your eyes very hard straight into non sense you know.
- ketzo 2y agoPart of Apple's product pitch is "you can give this phone to No-Tech Uncle Steve, and it'll be fine" Some of this interruption is to scare off users who will absolutely fuck up their phones with bitcoin mining apps, given the opportunity You can argue whether this paternalistic approach to technology is appropriate for the entire userbase, but there are definitely a number of cases that Apple is doing a genuinely good thing for their users here.
- Teever 2y agoSure, it could be worse. But it could be better. Compare it to installing fdroid on a stock a droid device. If Apple hasn't made the experience of installing alternative stores on their phones as simple as installing fdroid on a stock android phone it's not because they can't, but because they don't want to. And that's fine. That's just another thing the EU can force them to do.
- quitit 2y ago>The iOS 17.4 app marketplace flow is a disaster It takes longer to read the article than it does to install an alternate app store. The authors constant exaggeration for how difficult it is rings like an infomercial aka: https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExaDN6ZjhyemlldTM2ZGwwa21rcHpxcjB5ZzIzZ3piNzNhNG5lNzQxaiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/mQpizq8fKz4Jy/giphy.gif https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExaDN6ZjhyemlldTM...