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What if the gains are not on the other platforms? You don’t know what gains they have that they care about that you don’t. To extend their grocery store analog

by dagmx 2y ago

What if the gains are not on the other platforms? You don’t know what gains they have that they care about that you don’t. To extend their grocery store analogy, the layout is a gain to them. You may not care, but it is tangible to some. Your comment reads like you’re saying “all platforms must be considered equal or you find offence” but you’re ignoring subjective needs and opinions. Someone else’s choices and priorities are not a reflection on you as a person or your choices. What if they care about AppleScript? Nothing else has that. Or if they care about running Logic because there’s some unique plugin there?

alt227 2y ago
> What if the gains are not on the other platforms? All platforms can do everything. They are all just computers, you just have to learn how to do it. Everything else here is subjective, which I think we agree on. > but you’re ignoring subjective needs and opinions. No I'm not quite the opposite. All platforms are equal if you put the time and efffort into finding the ways to do things you want to. After that, the preference on which you would like to use is subjective. To clarify definition, needs are not subjective but opinions are.
- dagmx 2y ago
  Opinions are subjective by definition. Do not confuse opinions and facts. And the idea that “all platforms meet your needs if you put in enough effort and time ” is flawed because that time and effort is part of the needs. Again, to take their grocery store analogy: the layout doesn’t change the capability of the store. But it does provide them with the ability to get things done sooner, faster and with less cognitive load. User experience matters more than I think you acknowledge.
  - alt227 2y ago
    I see your point, but I have been shown time and time again that User experience is basically just practice. People can and do change all the time. Humans instinctively stick with what they know, but in reality most people could be more efficient by learning things outside of their comfort zone. The few people that do this are rewrded greatly by having multiple strings to their bow, and being adaptive to many environments. Those that stick with they know are super efficient in their own environment, but take them out of that and they invariably complain that they could be better if they had the tools they know.
    - dagmx 2y ago
      With all due respect, this is a very “stick your head in the ground” attitude about user experience. User experience matters and it’s not just about adapting.
      - alt227 2y ago
        In my experience its all about adapting, and the people that dont are the ones who have their heads stuck in the ground and get left behind. But we can agree to disagree, thats fine. Thankyou for the respect :)

by dagmx 2y ago

alt227 2y ago

> What if the gains are not on the other platforms? All platforms can do everything. They are all just computers, you just have to learn how to do it. Everything else here is subjective, which I think we agree on. > but you’re ignoring subjective needs and opinions. No I'm not quite the opposite. All platforms are equal if you put the time and efffort into finding the ways to do things you want to. After that, the preference on which you would like to use is subjective. To clarify definition, needs are not subjective but opinions are.

dagmx 2y ago
Opinions are subjective by definition. Do not confuse opinions and facts. And the idea that “all platforms meet your needs if you put in enough effort and time ” is flawed because that time and effort is part of the needs. Again, to take their grocery store analogy: the layout doesn’t change the capability of the store. But it does provide them with the ability to get things done sooner, faster and with less cognitive load. User experience matters more than I think you acknowledge.
- alt227 2y ago
  I see your point, but I have been shown time and time again that User experience is basically just practice. People can and do change all the time. Humans instinctively stick with what they know, but in reality most people could be more efficient by learning things outside of their comfort zone. The few people that do this are rewrded greatly by having multiple strings to their bow, and being adaptive to many environments. Those that stick with they know are super efficient in their own environment, but take them out of that and they invariably complain that they could be better if they had the tools they know.
  - dagmx 2y ago
    With all due respect, this is a very “stick your head in the ground” attitude about user experience. User experience matters and it’s not just about adapting.
    - alt227 2y ago
      In my experience its all about adapting, and the people that dont are the ones who have their heads stuck in the ground and get left behind. But we can agree to disagree, thats fine. Thankyou for the respect :)