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Some of this reads as: "How to learn Java in just 1.5 years!" And notably (and related to my Java observation) there are two OOP classes here. I like the conc

by throwaway2016a 2y ago

Some of this reads as: "How to learn Java in just 1.5 years!" And notably (and related to my Java observation) there are two OOP classes here. I like the concept but it is some key things a 4 year degree's sometimes (not saying always!) have: - Compiler Design - Architecture (though some of the "systems" courses get into this) - Databases (there is a DB course in there but it says "Essentials" and it is debatable if it actually even covers that) - AI / Machine Learning - Networks / Distributed Systems - Embedded Systems (less common in CS degrees but almost every CS student I know has messed with Arduinos so it's not a stretch to have a basic embedded systems course) Also, one of the most fun parts of an undergrad can be the electives, it would be nice to see some electives added here. I took 3D Graphics Programming and Bioinformatics, which I enjoyed at lot.

RandomThoughts3 2y ago
Same feeling. The list is a good start but a ton is missing. I’m not American but the first 4 years of my degree had: - a lot more maths - really a lot - what’s here doesn’t come close to covering what we did in the first year alone. For a CS degree, I would at least expect far more algebra, some graph theory, a course on optimisation and dynamic programming, some PDE and a course on numerical methods and algorithms and some formal logic (but from what I saw when I did my post-grad the amount of maths done in my country for a CS engineering degree goes further than a maths bachelor in the US so I’m extremely biased). - Compiler and some language theory - a course on logic programming, another on functional programming - a course on assembly and low level programming - a course on Networks and systems - a course on databases architecture - on top of a ton of physics and courses not directly oriented towards CS but required to be an engineer here.
- Suppafly 2y ago
  CompEng and CompSci are different degrees here, there is often some overlap, but a lot of schools, the most math you need for Comp Sci is calc 2 and stats. It also depends on the institution, some of them go hard for compilers and lower level stuff, and some of them barely touch on it or save it for their masters programs.
- throwaway2016a 2y ago
  > what’s here doesn’t come close to covering what we did in the first year alone This varies widely by University. The Git repo matches my experience pretty well except I also had Calc II and Discrete Mathematics. > a course on logic programming, another on functional programming This was already in the Git repo when I looked. I think the "Programming Languages" from University of Washington Courses cover that. Specifically "Programming Languages, Part C"... though it doesn't mention Common Lisp or Scheme and uses a lot of Ruby, which is an odd choice (IMHO).
- firesteelrain 2y ago
  I had a course my CS senior year in formal languages and automata theory over 20 years ago in the US. Graph theory wasn’t covered. We had Calc 2, Statistics, Linear Algebra, Differential Equations and Logic. Assembly, Fortran, Java, JavaScript, Standard ML, Ada and C++ were covered.
CuriousCosmic 2y ago
Just from personal experience but that list of yours seems closer to parts of a "Computer Engineering" curriculum than a CS curriculum. And I'd probably add on - Digital Logic Design (basic CMOS based logic, HDLs, and basic VLSI to add on top of computer architecture) - Real time systems (WCET analysis, scheduling, etc)
- throwaway2016a 2y ago
  I've interviewed a lot of different people from a lot of different Universities and I agree a lot of schools treat that as part of Computer Engineering. My undergrad was also accredited as an engineering program which may have something to do with it. But with that said, I've seen a lot of CS programs that also have at least some of those courses. Also, some schools blur CS and Electrical Engineering and for those you may take a whole other set of courses neither of us mentioned.
  - CuriousCosmic 2y ago
    Yeah our computer engineering program included a lot more EE stuff I didn't mention but the CS program didn't include any of that. Stuff like basic circuits, signal analysis, semiconductors (doping and transistor design/analysis), and for some people optionally also RF and network analysis (not that network, the one with smith charts).
kyawzazaw 2y ago
I assure all of these are optional or not even offered

RandomThoughts3 2y ago

Same feeling. The list is a good start but a ton is missing. I’m not American but the first 4 years of my degree had: - a lot more maths - really a lot - what’s here doesn’t come close to covering what we did in the first year alone. For a CS degree, I would at least expect far more algebra, some graph theory, a course on optimisation and dynamic programming, some PDE and a course on numerical methods and algorithms and some formal logic (but from what I saw when I did my post-grad the amount of maths done in my country for a CS engineering degree goes further than a maths bachelor in the US so I’m extremely biased). - Compiler and some language theory - a course on logic programming, another on functional programming - a course on assembly and low level programming - a course on Networks and systems - a course on databases architecture - on top of a ton of physics and courses not directly oriented towards CS but required to be an engineer here.

Suppafly 2y ago
CompEng and CompSci are different degrees here, there is often some overlap, but a lot of schools, the most math you need for Comp Sci is calc 2 and stats. It also depends on the institution, some of them go hard for compilers and lower level stuff, and some of them barely touch on it or save it for their masters programs.
throwaway2016a 2y ago
> what’s here doesn’t come close to covering what we did in the first year alone This varies widely by University. The Git repo matches my experience pretty well except I also had Calc II and Discrete Mathematics. > a course on logic programming, another on functional programming This was already in the Git repo when I looked. I think the "Programming Languages" from University of Washington Courses cover that. Specifically "Programming Languages, Part C"... though it doesn't mention Common Lisp or Scheme and uses a lot of Ruby, which is an odd choice (IMHO).
firesteelrain 2y ago
I had a course my CS senior year in formal languages and automata theory over 20 years ago in the US. Graph theory wasn’t covered. We had Calc 2, Statistics, Linear Algebra, Differential Equations and Logic. Assembly, Fortran, Java, JavaScript, Standard ML, Ada and C++ were covered.

CuriousCosmic 2y ago

Just from personal experience but that list of yours seems closer to parts of a "Computer Engineering" curriculum than a CS curriculum. And I'd probably add on - Digital Logic Design (basic CMOS based logic, HDLs, and basic VLSI to add on top of computer architecture) - Real time systems (WCET analysis, scheduling, etc)

throwaway2016a 2y ago
I've interviewed a lot of different people from a lot of different Universities and I agree a lot of schools treat that as part of Computer Engineering. My undergrad was also accredited as an engineering program which may have something to do with it. But with that said, I've seen a lot of CS programs that also have at least some of those courses. Also, some schools blur CS and Electrical Engineering and for those you may take a whole other set of courses neither of us mentioned.
- CuriousCosmic 2y ago
  Yeah our computer engineering program included a lot more EE stuff I didn't mention but the CS program didn't include any of that. Stuff like basic circuits, signal analysis, semiconductors (doping and transistor design/analysis), and for some people optionally also RF and network analysis (not that network, the one with smith charts).

kyawzazaw 2y ago

I assure all of these are optional or not even offered