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As an Android fan, I have to give Apple credit. They provide solid top-tier hardware and software, which Google does as well with the Pixel, but Apple also comb
by ryandvm 2y ago
As an Android fan, I have to give Apple credit. They provide solid top-tier hardware and software, which Google does as well with the Pixel, but Apple also combines it with strong arm tactics to keep people inside the wall. No dirty trick is off limits, from ecosystem lock-in to green-icon bullying at school - anything to get you to buy an iPhone.
Google doesn't really try to do this - mostly out of sheer incompetence I think.
Look at Google's messaging strategy. They have the most popular web browser in the world by far. They could easily have bundled a decent, lightweight chat client into Chrome and they would have 80% worldwide installed base. Instead their messaging strategy has literally become an industry joke.
- fluoridation 2y ago>green-icon bullying at school I'm far from an Apple fan, but is that really Apple's fault?
- alt227 2y agoThey made no effort to help the issue, when they very easily could have.
- fluoridation 2y agoSuch as by doing...?
- alt227 2y agoMaking all bubbles green
- fluoridation 2y agoThe point of the color is so the user knows whether a message is encrypted or not.
- alt227 2y agoYep, and the only people whose messages arent encrypted are android users due to apples proprietary protocol. So why do they leave the kids getting bullied for green bubbles? Because its good advertising, and it makes kids ask their parents for iPhones. They could very easily have made all bubbles green, and put a tiny padlock icon either next to the message, or even next to the user profile.
- fluoridation 2y agoYou seem to be under the misapprehension that kids actually care about the reasons why they bully other kids, and they don't just do it because they're assholes who just want to bully someone and haven't learned how to treat each other yet.
- alt227 2y agoAnd every time I answer your questions logically and correctly you seem to ignore it and change the angle of what you are saying.
- fluoridation 2y agoNo. The original complaint blamed Apple because kids bully each other. If you think kids bully each other because of the color of a message bubble then you don't understand kids. The idea that the problem would be solved by the feature being graphically different is laughably naive. Suppose that Apple made it so that encrypted and unencrypted messages were indistinguishable. Do you honestly think that would result in a net reduction in bullying? Because I think bullies just latch onto any reason they can to torment their victims.
- ryandvm 2y agoIf I make you aware of a problem that exists solely because of something you've done and you do nothing to stop it - is it your fault?
- taylodl 2y agoHow else would you recommend Apple indicate your message doesn't have end-to-end security? That's what the colors are actually about, BTW.
- Jensson 2y agoKids didn't bully kids due to end to end security... > That's what the colors are actually about, BTW. No, the green bubbles are intentionally made hard to read with low contrast text, if it was just to show end to end security they could have made the bubbles look pleasing rather than irritating.
- taylodl 2y agoThey don't look "irritating" to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Anyway, that is what the colors are indicating. Unless I'm missing something, the white text appears to be the same white in both cases, the text font appears to be the same, and the color saturation and brightness appear to be the same. So I'm not seeing how this was an attempt to make the texts "intentionally" hard to read. If you wanted to make it hard to read, you would have used yellow, not green.
- alt227 2y agoHave little padlock sybols on the encrypted message, like literally everyone else does?
- ryandvm 2y agoI assure you that the number of people that interpret those colors as encryption indicators is vanishingly small. To 99.9% of iPhone users it is a stand-in for "are these people in my cult or not?"
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