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That does make a lot of sense, at least in terms of latency: I imagine that when a one-hop announce comes back from outer space, the faster multi-hop path acros

by franek 2y ago

That does make a lot of sense, at least in terms of latency: I imagine that when a one-hop announce comes back from outer space, the faster multi-hop path across town will have already been established. For bandwidth, however, I don't see it yet. If all relevant nodes are idle at the time an announce comes in (so the 2% limit doesn't come into effect), a low-bandwith route might be established before one with a much higher bandwidth, no? (Prioritising latency over bandwidth can be the right thing to do, of course, depending on what the network is used for. But it might not.)

LinuxinaBIt 2y ago
Sure, in some cases, when the network has fewer announces to deal with, the 2% limit has less effect, the best way Reticulum can deal with this is with a network made out of more specialized node types connecting the lower speed links (http://reticulum.network/manual/interfaces.html#interfaces-modes http://reticulum.network/manual/interfaces.html#interfaces-m...) However when the network (and each node) is receiving enough announces to saturate that 2% chunk of most smaller links, those interfaces prioritize announces with less hops, and there is a queue, meaning it takes that interface longer to transport announces coming from further away. This makes it much more likely that nodes will form routes over a faster but longer path.
- franek 2y ago
  > Sure, in some cases, when the network has fewer announces to deal with, the 2% limit has less effect, the best way Reticulum can deal with this is with a network made out of more specialized node types connecting the lower speed links (http://reticulum.network/manual/interfaces.html#interfaces-m http://reticulum.network/manual/interfaces.html#interfaces-m...) I see. So it seems that optimizing a complex network can be a little more hands-on, not completely automatic (which would be a bit too much to ask, thinking about it). I guess my hypothetical path via outer space would have a "boundary" mode node somewhere on the way, although I am still fuzzy on how exactly this would affect things. And your point about the announce queue with saturated 2% bandwidth is clear. Thanks so far! This makes me want to read the rest of the manual and possibly start tinkering with Reticulum myself at some point.
  - LinuxinaBIt 2y ago
    Yeah, exactly what each type of node does gets a bit into the weeds where even I don't really know. You can ask in the Github Forum (https://github.com/markqvist/Reticulum/discussions https://github.com/markqvist/Reticulum/discussions) or Matrix Room (https://matrix.to/#/#reticulum:matrix.org https://matrix.to/#/#reticulum:matrix.org) if you need more detailed information :)

by franek 2y ago

LinuxinaBIt 2y ago

Sure, in some cases, when the network has fewer announces to deal with, the 2% limit has less effect, the best way Reticulum can deal with this is with a network made out of more specialized node types connecting the lower speed links (http://reticulum.network/manual/interfaces.html#interfaces-modes http://reticulum.network/manual/interfaces.html#interfaces-m...) However when the network (and each node) is receiving enough announces to saturate that 2% chunk of most smaller links, those interfaces prioritize announces with less hops, and there is a queue, meaning it takes that interface longer to transport announces coming from further away. This makes it much more likely that nodes will form routes over a faster but longer path.

franek 2y ago
> Sure, in some cases, when the network has fewer announces to deal with, the 2% limit has less effect, the best way Reticulum can deal with this is with a network made out of more specialized node types connecting the lower speed links (http://reticulum.network/manual/interfaces.html#interfaces-m http://reticulum.network/manual/interfaces.html#interfaces-m...) I see. So it seems that optimizing a complex network can be a little more hands-on, not completely automatic (which would be a bit too much to ask, thinking about it). I guess my hypothetical path via outer space would have a "boundary" mode node somewhere on the way, although I am still fuzzy on how exactly this would affect things. And your point about the announce queue with saturated 2% bandwidth is clear. Thanks so far! This makes me want to read the rest of the manual and possibly start tinkering with Reticulum myself at some point.
- LinuxinaBIt 2y ago
  Yeah, exactly what each type of node does gets a bit into the weeds where even I don't really know. You can ask in the Github Forum (https://github.com/markqvist/Reticulum/discussions https://github.com/markqvist/Reticulum/discussions) or Matrix Room (https://matrix.to/#/#reticulum:matrix.org https://matrix.to/#/#reticulum:matrix.org) if you need more detailed information :)