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> Thats great for a country of 44 million, not so great with a country the population of 333 million spread across multiple time zones. > You would have numero
by agubelu 2y ago
> Thats great for a country of 44 million, not so great with a country the population of 333 million spread across multiple time zones.
> You would have numerous problems implementing this system across a country with 4 primary time zones(lets ignore the lone two states with separate time zones for now).
You have mentioned timezones twice but haven't really explained why or how they would be an issue. Spain has two timezones, early results are withheld until polls close in the westmost timezone. The EU spans across multiple timezones as well, and elections to the European Parliament follow the same principle.
> Lets set aside the issues involved with transmitting data electronically (sounds like just a distributed electronic system).
Data is transmitted electronically and made publicly available on a per-ballot-box basis. Representatives of political parties with obviously competing interests are present during the counting process (and any member of the public who wishes to can attend it as well) and keep their own tally. If they find out that it diverges from the published results, they can ask for a re-count, which is possible because the physical votes are preserved. In fact they are treated as evidence and follow proper chain of custody by the national police.
> What are you talking about? The last several elections were typically decided within 12-24 hrs of the polls closing on the east coast. Where are you getting your "days" from? Maybe you are just reading Spanish news that is days behind in covering American news?
I distinctly remember live following the 2020 presidential election, going to sleep after all polls closed in the US, and waking up 8 hours later with the race still undecided. How is this possible with a fully electronic system? Why is it not near-instant? This is what I haven't understood yet and would love to be explained.
From Wikipedia (emphasis mine):
> On the morning of November 7 at approximately 11:25 a.m. EST, roughly three and a half days after polls had closed, ABC News, NBC News, CBS News, the Associated Press, CNN, and Fox News all called the election and Pennsylvania's 20 electoral votes for Biden
- nebula8804 2y ago>I distinctly remember live following the 2020 presidential election, going to sleep after all polls closed in the US, and waking up 8 hours later with the race still undecided. How is this possible with a fully electronic system? Why is it not near-instant? This is what I haven't understood yet and would love to be explained. They were suffering from the downsides of switching to an all paper ballot system: If you recall there was a worldwide pandemic occurring in 2020 so as a result all states offered paper ballots which were mailed in. And that election cycle, a record-breaking number of ballots were cast by mail. In Pennsylvania, things were delayed because the state wasn't allowed to start the process of verifying and counting ballots until Election Day. Pennsylvania is the state with the most votes left to count, as the end of the election and it went into Thursday if I recall. Some states, like Nevada, are also continuing to accept any mail-in ballots that arrive by Tuesday, Nov. 10, as long as they were postmarked by Election Day. That means votes were still trickling in, and all of those would have been counted. The 2020 election essentially proved my point.