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Show HN: Cleed – Simple feed reader for the command line
- DamonHD 2y agoHow many of my TL;DR points here https://www.earth.org.uk/RSS-efficiency.html https://www.earth.org.uk/RSS-efficiency.html do you already deal with, out of interest?
- radulucut 2y ago2 and 3 so far, but I am planning to support the others as well, thanks.
- DamonHD 2y agoHurrah! I have those listed in likely order of resource/climate impact, so if I could nudge you towards considering (1) sooner then even bettererer! B^>
- cogman10 2y agoNot that I disagree with this for any HTTP service, but how big of an issue is the network/compute power for RSS? Seems like a minor payload to be delivered. I guess it makes a difference in the performance/UX of the reader itself.
- hk__2 2y agoIn addition to performance it also has to do with politeness: it’s not polite to ask for the same resources again and again from a server when you could cache it, especially when it has explicit headers about it in its response. Think of small self-hosted blogs with hundreds of readers that constantly poll it.
- cogman10 2y agoEven with a small self-hosted blog, assuming you have more than a 56k hookup to the internet, a raspberry pi can service up 100s of requests per second. At the time of writing this, the HN rss feed is 12kb. That'd mean you'd need 10Mbps upload to handle 100s of requests to the rss feed per second. (Again, not saying you shouldn't optimize this, just questioning how big a problem it is).
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- DamonHD 2y agoWhen I was being low-grade DDoSed the other day my off-grid RPi3B server was taken out by ~60 bogus requests per second. It is otherwise entirely happy with normal HTTP loads, plus being primary DNS server, SMTP, NTP, ... One podcaster halved its bandwidth bill overnight getting just one of these fixed, see "A saving bandwidth special!": https://podnews.net/update/podlp-cloud-phone https://podnews.net/update/podlp-cloud-phone
- djbusby 2y agoThe link claims we could save "100kWh per day" and there is a dataset provided (I didn't dig in that yet)
- DamonHD 2y agoI am trying to better assess this number as part of an arXiv paper I am putting together. Maybe even this weekend! RSS/podcast feed polling is a load for which Apple/Amazon/Spotify/Podbean are currently wasting 99%+ of the network and CPU bandwidth for, and thus money and carbon emissions. Many of the creators have limited budgets, and reaching Net Zero is not going to happen by ignoring really easy cases such as this, albeit small in the overall scheme of things.
- djbusby 2y agoWell, I like the link you already posted and expect to see the arXiv one posted to HN as well. I have a home-brew solution for pulling feeds and will be cross reference with your info. One small impact!
- lwhsiao 2y agoHow does this compare to newsboat?
- slightwinder 2y agoLooks nice. But I'ts strange that there are so many "simple" feedreaders. Where are the tools for powerusers? How many feeds and formats are people using usually to be satisfied with simple?
- tester457 2y agoWhat poweruser tools are you missing in newsboat?
- FerretFred 2y agoThis is an excellent comment!
- ghostpepper 2y agoNot the OP but my biggest missing features would be: - the ability to send the output of one smart query into the input of another - not needing to escape every quotation mark in a query, and maybe the ability to combine operands eg ( title =~ {linux,macos} as opposed to title =~ \"linux\" or title =~ \"macOS\") - a dashboard mode that can show a snippet of the top headlines and maybe autoscroll - ability to mark an article as read after a certain delay I've started working on my own "power user" RSS reader that lets you weight the keywords you're interested in (so an article that hits important keywords but is older could be displayed above an article that's newer) but it's still closer to a proof-of-concept than a complete app.
- xyzsparetimexyz 2y ago=~ does a regex match, so you can use =~ \"linux|macos\"
- stevekemp 2y agoI think this is one of the reasons I started using rss2email back in the day - I could do the filtering, searching, and manipulation using my preferred email client. Originally that would have been mutt, later my own client, and later still I switched to gsuite. I did add support for excluding entries/posts based on title, body, regular expression, and similar, but at the end of the day I just fetch all feed entries and save them as emails. The later processing can be done by any client and that's pretty flexible. There's very little custom processing required in the RSS-processing itself.
- gshikha912 2y agothis is not for linux ?
- whalesalad 2y agoyes it is - https://github.com/radulucut/cleed/releases https://github.com/radulucut/cleed/releases
- djbusby 2y agoIt's in Go, which should compile and run on various Linux flavours.
- whalesalad 2y agowith arms wide open under the RSS feed welcome to this place i'll show you XML
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- genericacct 2y agoWhat are you using to store feed urls? It would be kind of cool and interoperable if you used newline separated textfiles
- genericacct 2y ago(OPML would do too)