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We are forced to make our life complex. You can't deny the fact that the society we are living in has evolved. Of course one still has the oppurtunity to get ri
by simonmysun 2y ago
We are forced to make our life complex. You can't deny the fact that the society we are living in has evolved. Of course one still has the oppurtunity to get rid of it and live in a cave, but how many people are doing this?
- bigstrat2003 2y ago> We are forced to make our life complex. No we aren't. People choose (or not) to make their lives complex, it isn't forced upon them.
- simonmysun 2y agoI'm glad you have a choice. I might also be able to choose not to, but there are more people who can't.
- marginalia_nu 2y agoIn what sense is it more complex?
- bluetomcat 2y agoYou are born into a society with certain expectations and customs. Choosing the slow and simple path turns you into a social recluse with little opportunities for contacts and further development. You may be reading Plato and Aristotle and have no idea what's currently happening in your neighbourhood because of lack of social contacts. The path to transformation should be the collective consensus towards new visions of society, not some individual acts of virtue signalling.
- marginalia_nu 2y ago> You are born into a society with certain expectations and customs. Choosing the slow and simple path turns you into a social recluse with little opportunities for contacts and further development. You may be reading Plato and Aristotle and have no idea what's currently happening in your neighbourhood because of lack of social contacts. Why do you think engaging with Plato and Aristotle will make you a recluse? > The path to transformation should be the collective consensus towards new visions of society, You use a should statement. Why should it be this way? Who has decided this is the way it should be? Also why does there need to be transformation? > not some individual acts of virtue signalling. Virtue ethics is also not the same as virtue signalling. Virtues in virtue ethics are for your own benefit. It's even a common point to do good things and not tell other people in e.g. stoic and early christian thought, as doing things to raise your esteem in the eyes of others is prideful and not virtuous.
- simonmysun 2y ago> In what sense is it more complex? The life is more complex because of the muddled and complex intellectual frameworks. This is because the 3-5 letter word concepts need to be defined to make sure everybody is talking about the same thing when people have to interact with more people.
- marginalia_nu 2y agoI don't think how you choose to describe the things that are change their nature.
- simonmysun 2y agoYes but it affects how other people comprehense it. Imagine making laws based on the idea of virtue from Aristotle.
- marginalia_nu 2y agoI'm imagining. Then what would happen?
- simonmysun 2y agoYou will need a percise definition of virtue and end up using the muddled complex intellectual frameworks. You may have no problem understanding the virtue concept with simple words because you grew up with it, but people with different environments may understand a different thing.
- svieira 2y agoThey may, but the wonderful thing about discourse is that in most cases you don't need to rebuild everything from raw signals processing on up. You just need to find the first common layer of agreement and build from there.