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> Unfortunately the Apache Foundation structure has some (an unspecified number greater than zero) "kill all the Muslims now!" Yuk. It is a trap to condem the
by worik 2y ago
> Unfortunately the Apache Foundation structure has some (an unspecified number greater than zero) "kill all the Muslims now!"
Yuk.
It is a trap to condem the foundation because of some people who are nasty outside the foundation
If they were enabled to stand in the way of Mahdi Islam, or their mates participating then there would be a problem
We have a problem in tech with naive fascists and fascist enablers. We must deal with it, but condemning the person, not the behavior, is not the way
Mahdi Islam is made up
- immibis 2y agoI'm sorry but I cannot trust an organisation headed by people who want to exterminate Muslims. If you feel differently, that's on you, and I urge you to reconsider your feelings. At first the behaviour should be condemned. If the person refuses to change the behaviour, the person is now at fault for choosing the behaviour which they know to be condemned.
- anonfordays 2y ago>We have a problem in tech with naive fascists and fascist enablers. No we don't.
- immibis 2y agoWe have a problem with "he may be a really shitty person but we ignore that because he does the work". In some cases where that person does a lot of work, it may be unavoidable. In other cases where the person does only a small amount of work, it's a mistake not to push back on their bad beliefs. A similar but opposite problem is pushing back too much on things that don't matter. E.g. a core python developer and inventor of Timsort just got a 3 month suspension for liking a comedy skit that used the word "slut", and for thinking that it's possible to discriminate against white people.
- anonfordays 2y ago>We have a problem with "he may be a really shitty person but we ignore that because he does the work". Social human endeavours where different people of different backgrounds come together to work towards a common goal universally suffer from this. This is in no way specific to software development communities. So I disagree, it's not a problem specific to the aforementioned domain. >In other cases where the person does only a small amount of work, it's a mistake not to push back on their bad beliefs. Therein lies the issue: no one person has a say on what is considered a "bad belief." This is exceedingly difficult when you work with persons whom are not from or steeped in west coast SV culture. Europeans do not have the same sensibilities as someone from San Francisco. >E.g. a core python developer and inventor of Timsort just got a 3 month suspension for liking a comedy skit that used the word "slut", and for thinking that it's possible to discriminate against white people. Just read about this. Incomprehensible.
- worik 2y ago[flagged]
- anonfordays 2y ago>Peter Thiel Not a fascist nor fascist enabler. >Elon Musk Not a fascist nor fascist enabler. Swing and a miss. Glad I could clear that up.