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> Epic wants their own store because they want to bypass Apple and Google entirely. Then don't install the Epic App store. Thats your right. If you are still

by stale2002 2y ago

> Epic wants their own store because they want to bypass Apple and Google entirely. Then don't install the Epic App store. Thats your right. If you are still upset then that means that yes this is about forcing other people and other companies to do what they want with their store and their phones. If thats your opinion, fine. Just say that out loud. Don't hide behind "Well, people should be able to choose what they want!" Type arguments. Just explicitly say that you don't care about consumer choice or a companies choice to make their own app store, and leave it at that.

lolinder 2y ago
And don't install the Meta store or the Adobe store or the Amazon store or whatever. That's a lot of apps that won't be accessible within the Apple ecosystem that currently are. > Just explicitly say that you don't care about consumer choice or a companies choice to make their own app store, and leave it at that. I very much do care about consumer choice. As a consumer, I chose Android because it has the flexibility to allow me to install what I want from where I want. As a consumer, my wife chose iOS because it currently offers a tightly integrated experience that doesn't get in her way. The EU and many on HN are trying to dismantle the experience that my wife chose to make it more like Android. That's a net loss in consumer choice directly caused by lobbying on the part of already-wealthy businesses who try to make it sound like the choices of billions of Apple users don't count so that they can justify their push to make more money themselves.
- stale2002 2y ago
  > And don't install the Meta store or the Adobe store or the Amazon store or whatever. Correct, yes. That is the same advice that you are trying to tell other people. "if you don't like it, just go buy something else", basically. So yes, take your own advice and only install the app store that you prefer. If that doesn't satisfy you, then you would have to admit that none of this is about choice, instead it would be about you wanting to force companies or other users to do what you want in your own way. You can't have this both ways here. Every single time you throw around arguments like "go buy a different thing", that same exact line of thinking can be thrown back at you, to tell you to just not install the app stores that you don't like. Pick one. This argument either is bad, or it can be thrown back at you when you use it. You can't use that argument and then run away when its thrown back at you. > As a consumer, my wife chose iOS because it currently offers a tightly integrated experience that doesn't get in her way. They can still have that. Just don't install those other app stores. Thats your advice that you throw around. So follow it.

lolinder 2y ago

And don't install the Meta store or the Adobe store or the Amazon store or whatever. That's a lot of apps that won't be accessible within the Apple ecosystem that currently are. > Just explicitly say that you don't care about consumer choice or a companies choice to make their own app store, and leave it at that. I very much do care about consumer choice. As a consumer, I chose Android because it has the flexibility to allow me to install what I want from where I want. As a consumer, my wife chose iOS because it currently offers a tightly integrated experience that doesn't get in her way. The EU and many on HN are trying to dismantle the experience that my wife chose to make it more like Android. That's a net loss in consumer choice directly caused by lobbying on the part of already-wealthy businesses who try to make it sound like the choices of billions of Apple users don't count so that they can justify their push to make more money themselves.

stale2002 2y ago
> And don't install the Meta store or the Adobe store or the Amazon store or whatever. Correct, yes. That is the same advice that you are trying to tell other people. "if you don't like it, just go buy something else", basically. So yes, take your own advice and only install the app store that you prefer. If that doesn't satisfy you, then you would have to admit that none of this is about choice, instead it would be about you wanting to force companies or other users to do what you want in your own way. You can't have this both ways here. Every single time you throw around arguments like "go buy a different thing", that same exact line of thinking can be thrown back at you, to tell you to just not install the app stores that you don't like. Pick one. This argument either is bad, or it can be thrown back at you when you use it. You can't use that argument and then run away when its thrown back at you. > As a consumer, my wife chose iOS because it currently offers a tightly integrated experience that doesn't get in her way. They can still have that. Just don't install those other app stores. Thats your advice that you throw around. So follow it.