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This reminds me of when I stumpled into a music theory flame war by proposing the "scale": 1, 15/14, 15/13, ..., 15/8, 2. https://music.stackexchange.com/questi

This reminds me of when I stumpled into a music theory flame war by proposing the "scale": 1, 15/14, 15/13, ..., 15/8, 2. https://music.stackexchange.com/questions/66620/what-is-a-temperament-in-the-most-general-sense/66635 https://music.stackexchange.com/questions/66620/what-is-a-te... This set of 8 nodes (can be transposed to whichever base frequency) has the lowest common denominator between any pair of nodes among all 8-node scales. I thought that might make it a good choice for a just intonation scale (which can really be any subset of frequencies you build you music from), but it turned out a sensitive subject.

the_other 2y ago
Why is it a sensitive subject?
- pyinstallwoes 2y ago
  Wait until you hear about A=432Hz
  - the_other 2y ago
    I've heard a little about this one. It's not that interesting, IMO. Some people think tuning even temperament down such that middle A becomes 432Hz (rather than 440Hz) is better for your health as well as the tone. I can get a little "woo" from time to time, but this one left me cold.
  - jameshart 2y ago
    Obviously C4 should be 256Hz. This has the important property that it makes C-3 2Hz, which is another name for 120bpm. In equal temperament, this makes A4 430.5Hz.
- thomasahle 2y ago
  I think some people start from equal temperament. Then define a scale as the subset of those 12 nodes. Any other subset of frequencies is just considered a "weird tuning" rather than a scale in its own right. That's my best steel man. As you can see they deleted the question after a lot of discussion.
colanderman 2y ago
Oh hey, I've experimented a bit recently with the similar scale 1, 24:23, 12:11, ... 24:13, 2. Essentially a 12-tone version of yours. I've been calling it the "utonal" scale as it is a utonal [1] series. Complements what I call the "otonal" scale of 1, 13:12, 7:6, etc. The trouble is, while intervals with the root are very consonant, arbitrary intervals don't sound great. I've noticed though, that a utonal scale is very similar to the scale of harmonics [2], which is traditionally used relative to a moveable root note. So I intend to experiment in that direction. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otonality_and_utonality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otonality_and_utonality [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale_of_harmonics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale_of_harmonics
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the_other 2y ago

Why is it a sensitive subject?

pyinstallwoes 2y ago
Wait until you hear about A=432Hz
- the_other 2y ago
  I've heard a little about this one. It's not that interesting, IMO. Some people think tuning even temperament down such that middle A becomes 432Hz (rather than 440Hz) is better for your health as well as the tone. I can get a little "woo" from time to time, but this one left me cold.
- jameshart 2y ago
  Obviously C4 should be 256Hz. This has the important property that it makes C-3 2Hz, which is another name for 120bpm. In equal temperament, this makes A4 430.5Hz.
thomasahle 2y ago
I think some people start from equal temperament. Then define a scale as the subset of those 12 nodes. Any other subset of frequencies is just considered a "weird tuning" rather than a scale in its own right. That's my best steel man. As you can see they deleted the question after a lot of discussion.

colanderman 2y ago

Oh hey, I've experimented a bit recently with the similar scale 1, 24:23, 12:11, ... 24:13, 2. Essentially a 12-tone version of yours. I've been calling it the "utonal" scale as it is a utonal [1] series. Complements what I call the "otonal" scale of 1, 13:12, 7:6, etc. The trouble is, while intervals with the root are very consonant, arbitrary intervals don't sound great. I've noticed though, that a utonal scale is very similar to the scale of harmonics [2], which is traditionally used relative to a moveable root note. So I intend to experiment in that direction. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otonality_and_utonality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otonality_and_utonality [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale_of_harmonics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale_of_harmonics

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