Sure, but in my mind, the onus is on the person claiming the single-digit number of interviews where someone was bold with Trump mattered, as opposed to 4 years

Sure, but in my mind, the onus is on the person claiming the single-digit number of interviews where someone was bold with Trump mattered, as opposed to 4 years of his policies causing people to dislike how he effected their life. I highly doubt "wait, but he just lied" is something someone realized years into him being a candidate with nearly 100% name recognition in the US. As you say, it ended up being about turnout, and I find it very unlikely that more people decided to vote because of a couple interviews with someone they likely already disagreed with.