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> Adobe App Store You’re describing a website with a purchase button, the exact situation we have on all non-mobile devices. > Look at the Windows game stores

> Adobe App Store You’re describing a website with a purchase button, the exact situation we have on all non-mobile devices. > Look at the Windows game stores situation. Yes and look at their competition: GoG, Steam, Humble Bundle, Epic Games, Origin, etc. Don’t like Windows game stores, no problem just use a competitor.

lolinder 2y ago
> GoG, Steam, Humble Bundle, Epic Games, Origin, etc. Don’t like Windows game stores, no problem just use a competitor. This is literally their point. Windows gaming is a convoluted mess of stores that you have to juggle, a far cry from the experience Apple has been trying to offer to consumers.
- _aavaa_ 2y ago
  Having to click, once, between different stores if you really care about a game is not some convoluted process. And analogies to streaming services don’t hold up for a few reasons: 1. There’s no ongoing cost to have an account at the each, purchases are one time. 2. Games do not leave services the way shows leave streaming sites.
  - joeblubaugh 2y ago
    > Games do not leave services the way shows leave streaming sites This already isn’t accurate, and it’s getting less so all the time.
    - _aavaa_ 2y ago
      I guess I’d like to see some examples of games being pulled from stores and also from the libraries of paid customers.
- jncfhnb 2y ago
  It’s not convoluted. There’s just multiple stores. You can get 99.9% of the games you want on steam.
joeblubaugh 2y ago
You now have different terms of service for these stores, including rules about data collection. Software will be exclusively available on these stores, so it’s not like you’ll actually have a choice about whether to use a given store. Just like those “competitive” windows game stores.
- _aavaa_ 2y ago
  The horror of having different companies allowed to set their own rules for how they interact with people. This scenario is how websites and the web as a whole work, it’s how macOS and windows work. And if you have concerns about privacy or shady business practices (I do too) remember that Facebook, TikTok, and Twitter are allowed on the App Store and get preferential treatment. The third party I want protecting me from sharing practices isn’t Apple (who is whole unaccountable) it’s the government.

lolinder 2y ago

> GoG, Steam, Humble Bundle, Epic Games, Origin, etc. Don’t like Windows game stores, no problem just use a competitor. This is literally their point. Windows gaming is a convoluted mess of stores that you have to juggle, a far cry from the experience Apple has been trying to offer to consumers.

_aavaa_ 2y ago
Having to click, once, between different stores if you really care about a game is not some convoluted process. And analogies to streaming services don’t hold up for a few reasons: 1. There’s no ongoing cost to have an account at the each, purchases are one time. 2. Games do not leave services the way shows leave streaming sites.
- joeblubaugh 2y ago
  > Games do not leave services the way shows leave streaming sites This already isn’t accurate, and it’s getting less so all the time.
  - _aavaa_ 2y ago
    I guess I’d like to see some examples of games being pulled from stores and also from the libraries of paid customers.
jncfhnb 2y ago
It’s not convoluted. There’s just multiple stores. You can get 99.9% of the games you want on steam.

joeblubaugh 2y ago

You now have different terms of service for these stores, including rules about data collection. Software will be exclusively available on these stores, so it’s not like you’ll actually have a choice about whether to use a given store. Just like those “competitive” windows game stores.

_aavaa_ 2y ago
The horror of having different companies allowed to set their own rules for how they interact with people. This scenario is how websites and the web as a whole work, it’s how macOS and windows work. And if you have concerns about privacy or shady business practices (I do too) remember that Facebook, TikTok, and Twitter are allowed on the App Store and get preferential treatment. The third party I want protecting me from sharing practices isn’t Apple (who is whole unaccountable) it’s the government.