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Forcing Google to stop paying Mozilla to be default search engine would surely be terrible for Mozilla, right? That's the vast majority of their income.

by mmmore 2y ago

meiraleal 2y ago
Yes it will be terrible for Mozilla executives.
echelon 2y ago
Maybe Mozilla shouldn't have paid their CEO $6.9M per year. Maybe Mozilla shouldn't have wasted so much money on metaverse, AI, chat, social features, etc. Maybe they could have doubled down on Rust, WASM, the browser, and become a developer tooling vendor that engineers loved. MDN, Mozdev, Servo, Rustls (not Mozilla, but could have been incubated), and so many other awesome things could have had so much potential if simply thought through, cared about, and coordinated. The future of everything is making the web first class on mobile. Regulation was always going to catch up and force Apple and Google's hands. Rust, WASM, and Servo could have been the basis of that.
edm0nd 2y ago
Seems great for consumers and bad for Mozilla and Google as companies. Win Win imo.
- wmf 2y ago
  No, Firefox getting canceled because Mozilla went out of business is not good for consumers.
  - effingwewt 2y ago
    It very much is. They will magically start listening to their users again, or fall by the way-side to be replaced, just like chrome. Business running shit needs to stop.
    - itscodingtime 2y ago
      Chrome got replaced ?
      - effingwewt 2y ago
        They just nixed ubo on chrome. The comments on that are full of people jumping ship, as is to be expected. Without firefox to point at as an example of how they are not anticompetitive, google is in for an even worse time wrt anti-trust. And now that firefox won't have Google's money they will need to stand on their own again. Firefox got markedly worse every year since they started taking Google's money.
    - wmf 2y ago
      Mozilla is already non-profit. If they aren't listening to users now, taking their money away isn't going to change that.

Forcing Google to stop paying Mozilla to be default search engine would surely be terrible for Mozilla, right? That's the vast majority of their income.

by mmmore 2y ago

Forcing Google to stop paying Mozilla to be default search engine would surely be terrible for Mozilla, right? That's the vast majority of their income.

meiraleal 2y ago

Yes it will be terrible for Mozilla executives.

echelon 2y ago

Maybe Mozilla shouldn't have paid their CEO $6.9M per year. Maybe Mozilla shouldn't have wasted so much money on metaverse, AI, chat, social features, etc. Maybe they could have doubled down on Rust, WASM, the browser, and become a developer tooling vendor that engineers loved. MDN, Mozdev, Servo, Rustls (not Mozilla, but could have been incubated), and so many other awesome things could have had so much potential if simply thought through, cared about, and coordinated. The future of everything is making the web first class on mobile. Regulation was always going to catch up and force Apple and Google's hands. Rust, WASM, and Servo could have been the basis of that.

edm0nd 2y ago

Seems great for consumers and bad for Mozilla and Google as companies. Win Win imo.

wmf 2y ago
No, Firefox getting canceled because Mozilla went out of business is not good for consumers.
- effingwewt 2y ago
  It very much is. They will magically start listening to their users again, or fall by the way-side to be replaced, just like chrome. Business running shit needs to stop.
  - itscodingtime 2y ago
    Chrome got replaced ?
    - effingwewt 2y ago
      They just nixed ubo on chrome. The comments on that are full of people jumping ship, as is to be expected. Without firefox to point at as an example of how they are not anticompetitive, google is in for an even worse time wrt anti-trust. And now that firefox won't have Google's money they will need to stand on their own again. Firefox got markedly worse every year since they started taking Google's money.
  - wmf 2y ago
    Mozilla is already non-profit. If they aren't listening to users now, taking their money away isn't going to change that.