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ok, I understand what planes we're talking about here, and they're interesting, but I do think there's room for the obligatory: "the call sign 'Air Force One'

ok, I understand what planes we're talking about here, and they're interesting, but I do think there's room for the obligatory: "the call sign 'Air Force One' is not for any particular plane, it's the air traffic control sign for any Air Force plane the US President is flying on."

ianburrell 2y ago
Air Force One also refers to the primary presidential aircraft. Words can mean multiple things, and can get attached to adjacent things. It helps that US has been using the same two VC-25 since 1990.
- fsckboy 2y ago
  I acknowledged what Air Force One was referring to in this discussion and in the article, did you miss that? then I added some information. now I'll add some more, both from wikipedia: Marine One is the call sign of any United States Marine Corps aircraft carrying the president of the United States. It usually denotes a helicopter operated by Marine Helicopter Squadron One "Nighthawks", consisting of either the large Sikorsky VH-3D Sea King or the newer, smaller VH-60N "White Hawk" Air Force Two is the air traffic control designated call sign held by any United States Air Force aircraft carrying the vice president of the United States, but not the president. The term is often associated with the Boeing C-32, a modified 757 which is most commonly used as the vice president's transport. I always try to add information or clarification, knowledge is power.
  - kelnos 2y ago
    I get what you were going for here, but I think to some it might have come across as unimportant pedantry. Perhaps phrasing your initial comment as "Fun fact: the call sign..." would have been better received? I dunno, people are fickle sometimes.
  - j33zusjuice 2y ago
    You acknowledged that we were discussing specific planes, but did not acknowledge the use of “Air Force One” as valid for discussing a specific aircraft (as shorthand for, “the plane most commonly used for presidential flights, and therefore, most commonly assigned the call-sign ‘Air Force One’”). Maybe that’s what you intended to do, but that is not clear in your original phrasing, which, to me, seemed more like a correction than an addition. Also, to note: I’m not trying to argue any points you’re making. I’m only trying to help clarify how you were misunderstood.

ianburrell 2y ago

Air Force One also refers to the primary presidential aircraft. Words can mean multiple things, and can get attached to adjacent things. It helps that US has been using the same two VC-25 since 1990.

fsckboy 2y ago
I acknowledged what Air Force One was referring to in this discussion and in the article, did you miss that? then I added some information. now I'll add some more, both from wikipedia: Marine One is the call sign of any United States Marine Corps aircraft carrying the president of the United States. It usually denotes a helicopter operated by Marine Helicopter Squadron One "Nighthawks", consisting of either the large Sikorsky VH-3D Sea King or the newer, smaller VH-60N "White Hawk" Air Force Two is the air traffic control designated call sign held by any United States Air Force aircraft carrying the vice president of the United States, but not the president. The term is often associated with the Boeing C-32, a modified 757 which is most commonly used as the vice president's transport. I always try to add information or clarification, knowledge is power.
- kelnos 2y ago
  I get what you were going for here, but I think to some it might have come across as unimportant pedantry. Perhaps phrasing your initial comment as "Fun fact: the call sign..." would have been better received? I dunno, people are fickle sometimes.
- j33zusjuice 2y ago
  You acknowledged that we were discussing specific planes, but did not acknowledge the use of “Air Force One” as valid for discussing a specific aircraft (as shorthand for, “the plane most commonly used for presidential flights, and therefore, most commonly assigned the call-sign ‘Air Force One’”). Maybe that’s what you intended to do, but that is not clear in your original phrasing, which, to me, seemed more like a correction than an addition. Also, to note: I’m not trying to argue any points you’re making. I’m only trying to help clarify how you were misunderstood.