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I'd go with "Anarcho-capitalist." Which of course explains their allure and the desire to retroactively improve their origin stories. They stand precisely in

I'd go with "Anarcho-capitalist." Which of course explains their allure and the desire to retroactively improve their origin stories. They stand precisely in the face of what the OP himself retroactively considers. > "I think it's clear for everybody that one cannot get away with this kind of stuff, once governments get involved." Which is the mantra of the bullied. As if we aren't the government. When precisely did we all decide that copyright should exist for a term of life PLUS 70 years? The government does not seek our permission when applying these laws to us yet we have to implicitly sacrifice our freedoms in order to blithely comply with it? And we all know that the problems with these individuals is not that they committed these crimes, it's that they explicitly called into question this very authority in the first place. That the government then uses this as further justification to destroy these individuals lives, permanently destroy their liberty, and broadcast a chilling effect over anyone who would ever attempt to improve these policies is what inspires people to lionize these figures.

alphabettsy 2y ago
I think if we’re having an honest argument this has nothing to do with copyright protection being 70 years. I’d be willing to bet a massive amount of money that most pirated media is less than a few years old. I don’t believe that we as a society are ever going to decide that copyright protection should be less than that.
- wazdra 2y ago
  It seems to me you are missing the forest for the tree here. A society where we have open, legal access to all the cultural pieces of the last century is very different from our own. And it seems difficult to know how it would affect both the consumption, but also the creation of media. Sometimes, when I argue about this IRL, I'm told that we are practically there because of piracy. But this is a debate of tech enthusiasts, we know how to download, we now how not to get caught. The majority does not
- Sakos 2y ago
  I've recently been pirating 30 and 40 year old games. It's pure insanity that it still counts as piracy.

alphabettsy 2y ago

I think if we’re having an honest argument this has nothing to do with copyright protection being 70 years. I’d be willing to bet a massive amount of money that most pirated media is less than a few years old. I don’t believe that we as a society are ever going to decide that copyright protection should be less than that.

wazdra 2y ago
It seems to me you are missing the forest for the tree here. A society where we have open, legal access to all the cultural pieces of the last century is very different from our own. And it seems difficult to know how it would affect both the consumption, but also the creation of media. Sometimes, when I argue about this IRL, I'm told that we are practically there because of piracy. But this is a debate of tech enthusiasts, we know how to download, we now how not to get caught. The majority does not
Sakos 2y ago
I've recently been pirating 30 and 40 year old games. It's pure insanity that it still counts as piracy.