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The new HSTX interface on the RP2350 seems to be squarely targeted at this use case (video output) and doesn't require the use of PIO or consuming a ton of CPU

The new HSTX interface on the RP2350 seems to be squarely targeted at this use case (video output) and doesn't require the use of PIO or consuming a ton of CPU cycles. There's a nice write up on the capability here: https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/08/15/raspberry-pi-rp2350-hstx-high-speed-serial-transmit-interface/ https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/08/15/raspberry-pi-rp2350-...

phire 2y ago
The main advantage of the SIO TMDS encoder, is that it allows you to output TMDS on any GPIO, instead of the eight that the HSTX is restricted to. And they allow an easy upgrade path for projects that were already bit-banging DVI on the rp2040. Other than those two advantages, I don't think there is any advantage to the SIO TMDS encoder over the HSTX TMDS encoder. I get the impression that the SIO TMDS encoder was added to the design first, and there wasn't a good reason to remove them after the introduction of HSTX.
jauntywundrkind 2y ago
Isn't hstx mainly good for streaming out? My naive guess would be that it wouldn't have as much transceiver offload capabilities, like what the SIO I naively guess would be good for. The nice part about using SIO seems to be that you can do the tdms encoding there. With hstx you need the output bitstream in the right format already which seems like you might be back to needing the CPU to do the encoding.
- phire 2y ago
  HSTX has a built in TMDS encoder, and as far as I can tell, it has all the functionality of the SIO TMDS encoder. You can configure it to directly consume any line buffer with any pixel format, from 1 to 8 bits per color channel. It even supports formats with different numbers of bits per channel like 8-bit RGB322 and 16-bit RGB565.
  - onetom 2y ago
    what's the fun in that though? i have the impression, that the main motivation for this project was learning the intricacies of TMDS encoding and providing an open implementation as reference for other ppl, who want to learn too. there are too many black box electronics these days, so it's very much welcome to virtually open them up, by providing software equivalents of their operation.
    - szundi 2y ago
      Fun is to proceed to the next fun faster

phire 2y ago

The main advantage of the SIO TMDS encoder, is that it allows you to output TMDS on any GPIO, instead of the eight that the HSTX is restricted to. And they allow an easy upgrade path for projects that were already bit-banging DVI on the rp2040. Other than those two advantages, I don't think there is any advantage to the SIO TMDS encoder over the HSTX TMDS encoder. I get the impression that the SIO TMDS encoder was added to the design first, and there wasn't a good reason to remove them after the introduction of HSTX.

jauntywundrkind 2y ago

Isn't hstx mainly good for streaming out? My naive guess would be that it wouldn't have as much transceiver offload capabilities, like what the SIO I naively guess would be good for. The nice part about using SIO seems to be that you can do the tdms encoding there. With hstx you need the output bitstream in the right format already which seems like you might be back to needing the CPU to do the encoding.

phire 2y ago
HSTX has a built in TMDS encoder, and as far as I can tell, it has all the functionality of the SIO TMDS encoder. You can configure it to directly consume any line buffer with any pixel format, from 1 to 8 bits per color channel. It even supports formats with different numbers of bits per channel like 8-bit RGB322 and 16-bit RGB565.
- onetom 2y ago
  what's the fun in that though? i have the impression, that the main motivation for this project was learning the intricacies of TMDS encoding and providing an open implementation as reference for other ppl, who want to learn too. there are too many black box electronics these days, so it's very much welcome to virtually open them up, by providing software equivalents of their operation.
  - szundi 2y ago
    Fun is to proceed to the next fun faster