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> State of Hawai'i, which is most authoritarian state, required vaccines or testing before flying in So your bar for "authoritarian state" is not wanting peopl
by marcuskane2 2y ago
> State of Hawai'i, which is most authoritarian state, required vaccines or testing before flying in
So your bar for "authoritarian state" is not wanting people with a highly infectious, airborne disease to vacation on a remote island where every single hospital was overcapacity?
You understand that there were no ICU beds available, emergency services were overwhelmed, nurses and doctors were working perpetual overtime with insufficient resources, etc, right?
"Take a test to show you don't have covid before flying to an island with zero capacity to handle more sick people" seems like an incredibly basic, common-sense measure.
- apercu 2y ago[flagged]
- gottorf 2y agoI can't read OP's comment anymore as it has been flagged, but in response to your comment alone: the question isn't whether it's a good idea for someone to travel to Hawaii while positive for Covid in the early days of the pandemic, it's whether the state has the legal authority to halt the liberty of interstate travel[0]. If your answer is that emergency situations warrant such "basic, common-sense" restrictions, then my rebuttal is that a) governments will manufacture as many emergency situations as needed, and b) what is basic and common-sense to one may not be to another and in either case, that ratchet will only go one way; in the direction of authoritarianism. [0]: This liberty has most recently been under controversy again in the context of states wanting to ban travel to other states for the purposes of obtaining an abortion.